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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 636025, member: 66&quot;]Under that definition so is a nickel I just beat up with a hammer and chisel. or a &quot;sandwich piece&quot;.&nbsp; (Get me a sledge hammer, I want to create a numismatic item.&nbsp; Wham wham wham.&nbsp; There you go a new item that&#039;s NOT numismatically worthless!&nbsp; Drusus says so.)</p><p><br /></p><p>I have no problem with the orignal hobo nickels being numismatic items, or countermarked pieces, or many counterstamped pieces.&nbsp; They all have&nbsp; hstory and purpose that relates to numismatics (money and money substitutes).&nbsp; The modern engraved art does not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Am I a collector?&nbsp; Yes, but as time passes I collect less and less.&nbsp; Am I&nbsp; Numismatist? Yes, and as time passesI become more and more of a numismatist.&nbsp; Numismatics and coin collecting have little to do with each other.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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