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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;krispy, post: 628365, member: 19065&quot;]CamaroDMD:</p><p>Sure, &#039;damage&#039; as defined reduces the value of a thing, whether that damage is intentional or accidental. However, this coin is still regarded as a cent and still holds a cents value and <u>you would pay at least one cent for this coin as you stated it&#039;s value to you in your reply.</u> <i>That&#039;s sort of how this hobby works,</i> you pay for a coin what it&#039;s worth to you and based on what you can and agree to pay based on a <u>subjective value</u> assessed to a coin. You personally don&#039;t need to pay a counter-stamped coin because you can find one, keep it, coin-collect it and therefore you will never be out a cent for it. A lot of people agree with you, so you might be able to find one for free too!</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s value has not been diminished as a monetary device by the counter-stamp, which is not classifiable so narrowly as damaged and worthless as you subjectively grade your own collection of coins, so don&#039;t be so dismissive because someone else may appreciate it, even if it only holds 1¢ or intrinsic value for them. I doubt most collect these to make money on the counter-stamp feature. </p><p><br /></p><p>Rather these coins are <u>altered</u>, post-mint, and there is a diverse style to these punches which you overlook, their use and the intentions of those who stamped or punched them. Just like this hobby, coin designs, categories of collecting and values change, it evolves and it diversifies. What came before is not reduced, it is historic and foundational to the hobby. The entire system of grading has greatly evolved in the past twenty years or so since it started becoming a necessary and agreeable form of assessing/valuing fine coins. Grading has evolved greatly to include all sorts of areas of coin collecting that didn&#039;t exist before, terms and distinctions now exist that were not known just two decades ago and to address special numismatic variations that are new to the hobby. </p><p><br /></p><p>So where have these counter-stamp devices gone? Who created them? Why? Are they still in use? Are counter-stamps still being made to stamp new coins? Where can you get one? Why did they start this mission? Why did they stop? For how long were they stamped and how many were stamped? IF answers arise to these sort of queries, if numbers are limited and/or the story compelling, shared in the community, then these items will be something other than what you consider them to be in your current callous and ignorant manner. I don&#039;t care what you think of their value. I don&#039;t expect anything from them. But I do expect some respect to various areas of interest within collecting, despite its deviance from your form of collecting. I do not hope these coins to take greater value or pollute the hobby, but they have a place outside of unintended or malicious damage to a coin design.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is still a coin, an intentionally counter-stamped coin, not a &#039;damaged&#039; coin. People can and do still spend with it as well as coin-collect it for love and curiosity alone, not it&#039;s unrealised and non-valued numismatic value sense. The value remains at 1¢, yet depending on demand and what a collector may wish/choose to pay, it could possess a greater value, none of which will be diminished by limitations you&#039;d wish upon it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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