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<p>[QUOTE="The Meat man, post: 24565282, member: 135271"]Not too long ago I was taking some updated photos of some coins, and doing a bit more research on them. In particular, this little group of small Greek bronzes which I won some time ago from CNG. This is the auction house's photo/description:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/668_2(1).jpg.5a7b03792f5b177d9768bdf824205de8.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/668_3.jpg.46ee5dd304c58a0ac8929af941507c85.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>"DESCRIPTION</p><p><b>GREEK. Magna Graecia & Sicily. <i>Lot of four (4) Syracusan bronze issues.</i> </b>Includes: various types. Average Fine. LOT SOLD AS IS, NO RETURNS. Four (4) coins in lot."</p><p> </p><p>Ordinarily I'm not interested much in these little Greek bronzes, but I liked the top coins - the Kore/bull and Arethusa/dolphin. The coins didn't come with much identification so I had to dig a bit ( with a little help from CT and NF members) to get correct attribution.</p><p> </p><p>They are all interesting in some ways, but the one I'm focusing on now is the bottom left - Athena with raised helmet and thunderbolt:</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/20220424_134347.jpg.1d4682dcddc4db5f31479bc3440fe623.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>In combing through auction listings I found that this coin (as well as two others in the same lot) had been sold by CNG in a previous group lot in 2008:</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/78000125.jpg.4811893d7cf91e4d115c611e05286eac.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>The interesting thing was that this group lot gave cursory descriptions of each coin, and this is what they said of the Athena/thunderbolt coin:</p><p> </p><p><b>"...f) Æ Hexas(?). Struck circa 304-289 BC. Athena / Thunderbolt. CNS 118; Favorito type 38a (this coin, illustrated)..."</b></p><p> </p><p>A plate coin? Not being familiar with Favorito I did some quick searching. <i>The Bronze Coinage of Ancient Syracuse</i> came up. I went to eBay and found a copy for sale, made an offer and was accepted! It is my first Greek reference work.</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230429_204729.jpg.30d4624ec80dbd2cf1a796ab81eba9ce.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Quickly turning to the pages of plates I discovered indeed, my coin is the Favorito plate coin! [ATTACH=full]1557073[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230429_204820.jpg.08578ecf9d801413f10841e4957ade27.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The coin also matches the physical dimensions given:</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230504_204506.jpg.a77b5a1fff54b50564a32bfec2eaaba7.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>And, here is the updated photo presentation -</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/agathokles_thunderbolt.jpg.66d4999b41d257f2c106da4857991bba.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>It is - as far as I'm aware - my first plate coin! I think it's pretty cool. [ATTACH=full]1557074[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p>Also I'm curious to know why this information was not included in CNG's later group lot listing, which I bid on. Could it be that a CNG researcher failed to note that the coin had gone through the auction house back in 2008 and so failed to see the Favorito notation? I wonder if, being a plate coin, it might have warranted being in a lot by itself. Surely, at the very least, it would have been worth a mention!</p><p> </p><p>Be that as it may, I'm happy to have been the one to re-discover the provenance! Thanks for looking and please feel free to post any comments or photos of your own plate coins![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The Meat man, post: 24565282, member: 135271"]Not too long ago I was taking some updated photos of some coins, and doing a bit more research on them. In particular, this little group of small Greek bronzes which I won some time ago from CNG. This is the auction house's photo/description: [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/668_2(1).jpg.5a7b03792f5b177d9768bdf824205de8.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/668_3.jpg.46ee5dd304c58a0ac8929af941507c85.jpg[/IMG] "DESCRIPTION [B]GREEK. Magna Graecia & Sicily. [I]Lot of four (4) Syracusan bronze issues.[/I] [/B]Includes: various types. Average Fine. LOT SOLD AS IS, NO RETURNS. Four (4) coins in lot." Ordinarily I'm not interested much in these little Greek bronzes, but I liked the top coins - the Kore/bull and Arethusa/dolphin. The coins didn't come with much identification so I had to dig a bit ( with a little help from CT and NF members) to get correct attribution. They are all interesting in some ways, but the one I'm focusing on now is the bottom left - Athena with raised helmet and thunderbolt: [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/20220424_134347.jpg.1d4682dcddc4db5f31479bc3440fe623.jpg[/IMG] In combing through auction listings I found that this coin (as well as two others in the same lot) had been sold by CNG in a previous group lot in 2008: [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/78000125.jpg.4811893d7cf91e4d115c611e05286eac.jpg[/IMG] The interesting thing was that this group lot gave cursory descriptions of each coin, and this is what they said of the Athena/thunderbolt coin: [B]"...f) Æ Hexas(?). Struck circa 304-289 BC. Athena / Thunderbolt. CNS 118; Favorito type 38a (this coin, illustrated)..."[/B] A plate coin? Not being familiar with Favorito I did some quick searching. [I]The Bronze Coinage of Ancient Syracuse[/I] came up. I went to eBay and found a copy for sale, made an offer and was accepted! It is my first Greek reference work. [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230429_204729.jpg.30d4624ec80dbd2cf1a796ab81eba9ce.jpg[/IMG] Quickly turning to the pages of plates I discovered indeed, my coin is the Favorito plate coin! [ATTACH=full]1557073[/ATTACH] [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230429_204820.jpg.08578ecf9d801413f10841e4957ade27.jpg[/IMG] The coin also matches the physical dimensions given: [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/IMG_20230504_204506.jpg.a77b5a1fff54b50564a32bfec2eaaba7.jpg[/IMG] And, here is the updated photo presentation - [IMG]https://content.invisioncic.com/k321387/monthly_2023_05/agathokles_thunderbolt.jpg.66d4999b41d257f2c106da4857991bba.jpg[/IMG] It is - as far as I'm aware - my first plate coin! I think it's pretty cool. [ATTACH=full]1557074[/ATTACH] Also I'm curious to know why this information was not included in CNG's later group lot listing, which I bid on. Could it be that a CNG researcher failed to note that the coin had gone through the auction house back in 2008 and so failed to see the Favorito notation? I wonder if, being a plate coin, it might have warranted being in a lot by itself. Surely, at the very least, it would have been worth a mention! Be that as it may, I'm happy to have been the one to re-discover the provenance! Thanks for looking and please feel free to post any comments or photos of your own plate coins![/QUOTE]
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