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<p>[QUOTE="coppercoins, post: 565903, member: 152"]Well, the answer lies within a question, actually. "With what precision?"</p><p><br /></p><p>Under typical conditions, say a 20X-30X microscope - I would say one in a thousand dies would receive a mintmark that was substantially close enough in position to a different die so as to make them impossible at this magnification to tell the difference between the two. Now that both would have the same spread as a repunched mintmark is a one in a million long shot...which is why mintmark position alone is not reliable unless far enough off to see under typical magnification.</p><p><br /></p><p>I know of a number of Lincoln cent repunched mintmarks that REQUIRE a 30X overlay to detect as being different from another, but I know of only one pair that is undetectable as being different dies at typical magnification even with an overlay. This pair of 1960D repunched mintmarks was only split with the keen eye and good detective work of John Bordner a number of years ago, and is currently listed as two different dies by many. The mintmark AND doubling are identical...the only thing that separates the two are die markers that happened in such a way as to prove that two different dies had to be used to create the coins. Unfortunately right now I do not remember the die numbers for this rare occurrence.</p><p><br /></p><p>A simple example of a doubled die that remarkably resembles another, thus die scratches and gouges have to be used to detect them as different would be 1972P-1DO-003 and 1972P-1DO-008. The spread of doubling on these two dies is so similar, they are virtually identical even under magnification. Again, the only thing that definitely separates these two dies are markers that could not have all occurred on the same die.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="coppercoins, post: 565903, member: 152"]Well, the answer lies within a question, actually. "With what precision?" Under typical conditions, say a 20X-30X microscope - I would say one in a thousand dies would receive a mintmark that was substantially close enough in position to a different die so as to make them impossible at this magnification to tell the difference between the two. Now that both would have the same spread as a repunched mintmark is a one in a million long shot...which is why mintmark position alone is not reliable unless far enough off to see under typical magnification. I know of a number of Lincoln cent repunched mintmarks that REQUIRE a 30X overlay to detect as being different from another, but I know of only one pair that is undetectable as being different dies at typical magnification even with an overlay. This pair of 1960D repunched mintmarks was only split with the keen eye and good detective work of John Bordner a number of years ago, and is currently listed as two different dies by many. The mintmark AND doubling are identical...the only thing that separates the two are die markers that happened in such a way as to prove that two different dies had to be used to create the coins. Unfortunately right now I do not remember the die numbers for this rare occurrence. A simple example of a doubled die that remarkably resembles another, thus die scratches and gouges have to be used to detect them as different would be 1972P-1DO-003 and 1972P-1DO-008. The spread of doubling on these two dies is so similar, they are virtually identical even under magnification. Again, the only thing that definitely separates these two dies are markers that could not have all occurred on the same die.[/QUOTE]
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