Continental Currency Restrike- Any information?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Isaiah, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Here is some info from a Bowers auction listing,

    http://www.bowersandmerena.com/auctions/lot_detail.aspx?auctionno=13080&SessionNo=1&LotNo=32

    and here is an article dedicated to more the Bashlow cent, but it also says:
    from http://www.confederatequarter.com/cent.html

    " Robert Bashlow made restrikes of several different coins from the original dies. One of these was the Continental Dollar. In the case of the Confederate Cent he had copy dies made because of the condition of the original dies."

    Both of which seem to indicate that it was original dies. Another article that I can't find says that the Dies were under the control of the Smithsonian and Bashlow and supposedly Bowers borrowed them to do the dollar and they were returned to the Smithsonian with the addition of the confederate cent dies. But treat this as hearsay until I find the reference ( which was probably hearsay anyway)

    Jim
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Yeah I don't believe that for several reasons. The dies might be from 1860 but the coins minted in the 18th century don't look at darn bit like those. There is far to much precision such as the suns straight as an arrow rays. This looks like an idealized version of the originals.

    In addition, how about die wear? And then they minted with Brass? No way, those dies would have been already spent, possibly and likely cracked from use.

    Ruben
     
  4. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    yeah, from what I'm reading those are restrikes of a fake 19th century copy of the origianl 18th century design. Now that is believable, maybe.

    accept for this:


    "This prooflike near-Gem is from the 1961 issue, and it is sharply impressed with a bit of light, silvery tinting to both sides. There are no blemishes of note."

    Huh? How can a used die produce a prooflike coin?


    Ruben
     
  5. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    mrbrklyn said: Huh? How can a used die produce a prooflike coin?





    the answer: by striking it more than once and polishing the dies.
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member



    Your gonna polish a 150 year old die from a museum?
     
  7. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    There is not a single detail on your coin that matches a genuine coin. The fonts are wrong, the fonts are the wrong size, the sun and rays are in the wrong position, the oval with the plow is in the wrong place, etc, etc.

    Yours is a copy made around 1961 by the Robert Bashlow Co, Inc. They were made in Bronze (5000 pcs), Silver (2000 pcs) and Goldine (3000 pcs) versions and are relatively rare today. The three versisons were all the same except that the silver one had a small S at the bottom of the reverse side. Some may also have been struck in white metal (zinc). A full set would run you about $400-600 today although they were originally sold for about $15 for all three. There are currently a few on ebay.

    The picture that you have shown here is the same picture (not just a different picture of the same coin) that was in the Februray 2008 Bowers and Merena Auction. Did you buy that coin, or are you spoofing us? If you did buy it, you should have gotten all relevant information from them. http://www.bowersandmerena.com/auctions/lot_detail.aspx?auctionno=13080&SessionNo=1&LotNo=32
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice to see someone putting in a caveat to something they think , exspecially after this election , but what you said could be true .
    rzage:thumb:
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    that is all hearsay and inadmissible

    Give me evidence!
     
  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    LOL:hail:;)
    rzage
     
  12. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I know it's a restrike and make no claim otherwise.
     
  13. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    He's using Bowers and Merena's photo to illustrate his coin. Seems strange. Just saying.
     
  14. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I used the bowers and merena's coin to illustrate what mine looks like. It's the best picture I could find. I have no other way.
     
  15. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I used the image as a point of reference. To give an idea of what my restrike looked like.
     
  16. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I am certainly not "spoofing" anyone. learn common courtesy/kindness davidh.
     
  17. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    david is cool, Issiah is cool, everyone, all the prophets and the kings are cool...everything is cool.
     
  18. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    No need to get your knickers in a bunch. It's just that if you post a question about your coin, but illustrate it with someone else's picture, it's not likely that you can get an accurate answer.
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    The only way I can post a coin of mine is if I bought it online and use their picture , I'd be in the same predicament if I tried to post another of my coins , I'd have to borrow a picture to make a point , know how you feel .
    rzage:hail::D:thumb:
     
  20. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    I'm glad you understand.
     
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