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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2577615, member: 24314"][USER=299]@howards[/USER] posted: IMO, that's too subjective a definition. "Whatever time period we wish to consider" leaves it up to the reader to pick the time frame. The time frame is not up to the reader - <span style="color: #b300b3">it is set by definition to be the period during which the genuine coins were manufactured and circulated.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #006600">See, it is not complicated after all. That is exactly what I posted if you read it again. Contemporary counterfeits circulated with the similar coins that were in circulation </span><span style="color: #ff0000">AT THE TIME - whatever time period we wish to consider - 1600's, 1700's, 1900's - get it now? </span></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=299]@howards[/USER] wrote: "An interesting case to consider is the Henning counterfeit Jefferson nickels. Jefferson nickels are still a currently manufactured and circulating design. So are the Hennings modern counterfeits or contemporary?"</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">OMG! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><br /></p><p>"I think you can make good arguments either way." <span style="color: #b30000">Really? This from a nickel expert, really? </span> For me, the (weasel) way out of that is to call them Henning counterfeits. If you pushed me, I'd side with contemporary rather than modern.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">That's what they ARE - contemporary. </span></p><p><br /></p><p>"Looking up the word "contemporary" in the dictionary is not a useful way to resolve this. Like many other disciplines, numismatics uses language in a specialized way." </p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000">Contemporary is not an ambiguous word. This is not a case of: It all depends on what "is" is? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2577615, member: 24314"][USER=299]@howards[/USER] posted: IMO, that's too subjective a definition. "Whatever time period we wish to consider" leaves it up to the reader to pick the time frame. The time frame is not up to the reader - [COLOR=#b300b3]it is set by definition to be the period during which the genuine coins were manufactured and circulated.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006600]See, it is not complicated after all. That is exactly what I posted if you read it again. Contemporary counterfeits circulated with the similar coins that were in circulation [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]AT THE TIME - whatever time period we wish to consider - 1600's, 1700's, 1900's - get it now? [/COLOR] [USER=299]@howards[/USER] wrote: "An interesting case to consider is the Henning counterfeit Jefferson nickels. Jefferson nickels are still a currently manufactured and circulating design. So are the Hennings modern counterfeits or contemporary?" [COLOR=#b30000]OMG! :banghead::banghead::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:[/COLOR] "I think you can make good arguments either way." [COLOR=#b30000]Really? This from a nickel expert, really? [/COLOR] For me, the (weasel) way out of that is to call them Henning counterfeits. If you pushed me, I'd side with contemporary rather than modern. [COLOR=#b30000]That's what they ARE - contemporary. [/COLOR] "Looking up the word "contemporary" in the dictionary is not a useful way to resolve this. Like many other disciplines, numismatics uses language in a specialized way." [COLOR=#b30000]Contemporary is not an ambiguous word. This is not a case of: It all depends on what "is" is? :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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