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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2550759, member: 24314&quot;]John,</p><p><br /></p><p>I am going to disagree with you by posing some questions; but before I do, I want all here who do not know of your work and Bob&#039;s in this field to understand that that you are considered to be experts on contemporary counterfeit 8 Reales and Cap/Rays pieces.&nbsp; I have your book and await the next.</p><p><br /></p><p>1. The coin was in the Newman Collection as a genuine piece.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure Eric would like to discuss your comments as it is a neat coin either way. </p><p><br /></p><p>2. The coin is authenticated by NGC.&nbsp; For what it is worth, I happen to know that NGC does not agree with a lot of your work and conclusions so we&#039;ll consider this a draw.</p><p><br /></p><p>3.&nbsp; When a coin is in a major auction such as this, we can consider that every dealer/collector who looked at it believed it to be genuine.&nbsp; And anyone here who thinks that dealers/collectors don&#039;t look forward to proving the TPGS are idiots is not very informed.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>4. Coloration like this happens.&nbsp; We cannot take a specific gravity test or weigh the coin.&nbsp; As a teen, I worked in a large shop that did anodizing and electroplating.&nbsp; The coin does not look plated to me. </p><p><br /></p><p>While I happen to agree with you and Bob that possibly lots of fakes have been slabbed, this does not appear to be one. Now some questions?&nbsp; Is this coin in Riddell (my copy is not here)?&nbsp; Have you matched the punch shape of the letters or numerals to known counterfeits?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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