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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 2540937, member: 39&quot;]Don&#039;t think there were any. What you have in mind was the Karlsruhe Mint Scandal, I think: In one of the then four West German mints, several unauthorized coins were produced in the 1970s. The mint director and a few others were involved in the production of about 1,700 coins (copies of rare pieces, or coins that the Karlsruhe mint did not have a Feds order for) with a total market value of roughly half a million DM. Interestingly, in the opinion of the first (lower) court this was theft and fraud but not counterfeiting &quot;because what an official mint produces cannot be fake&quot;. Well, later the Federal Court of Justice (BGH) decided that what counts is that these coins were made without any government order. Full text of the BGH decision in German: <a href="https://www.jurion.de/Urteile/BGH/1977-09-27/1-StR-374_77" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.jurion.de/Urteile/BGH/1977-09-27/1-StR-374_77" rel="nofollow">https://www.jurion.de/Urteile/BGH/1977-09-27/1-StR-374_77</a> So yes, they were counterfeits.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The former, I believe. After all, the note can basically be redeemed like any other DM note. So it is still worth its face value, and you get €25.56 for it. However, it has to be submitted to the Bundesbank&#039;s Analysis Center, so this is not the usual &quot;put DM on the counter and get € back&quot; procedure. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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