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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 183939, member: 6370"]for one thing it is a copy of a paduan medal which are fake medals, extremely nice well done medals, but they were made in the 16th century...so one could say its a fake of a fake...the one below is even a cast of an orginal and isnt a real example of the original fake...but it is cast from an original and a real good cast...the original fakes are VERY expensive collectors items now...</p><p> </p><p>here is the coin it is trying to emulate:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/12531/132303.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/16229/domitian.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>I would be thrilled if it WAS a real paduan medal fake...here is a bit of info on them:</p><p> </p><p>Paduan – By this name are designated the false medals executed with much care and with surpassing skill by Giovanni del Cavino, surnamed il paduano, and by Bassiano. These fabricators of counterfeits, who are equally distinguished by the appelation of the Pauduans, copied medals from the antique, or according to the antique method, or they composed designs for reverses with a profound knowledge of history.</p><p>These medals belong to the 16th century AD, and are held in great repute, and are still much in request on account of their beautiful workmanship. It is to the Paduans, and also the Dutchman Carteron that the greatest portion of false coins are to be ascribed, which find a place in almost all cabinets. The French King's Collection at Paris contains a fine suite of these mock antiquities.</p><p> </p><p>here are more of them:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=2&page=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=2&page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=2&page=1</a></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><font face="Verdana">Now when I saw it, I was not aware of these medals...but the coin was the size of a sestersius but the weight was closer to an As...the style of the rev. is not right, generic and soft, no signs of a sharp strike like a cast of a cast fake...wrong style is something that can only be determined after seeing a lot of ancients, the portrait is nice and is common to domitian coins, the portrait is style is off and lettering is fat and soft where letter is supposed to be sharp edged from a strike, even with wear, where the letter hits the flan should be more angular |_ and instead it is blended soft like a poor cast that doesnt quite get the sharp edges....I still am not sure of what metal it is made of but it is real light weight and has white and red corrosion, seems to be almost rusting red and white (maybe zinc and aluminium)...it didnt have the weight and heft of a sestersius. On closer inspection of the coins edge I found very obvious signs of having been filed...and with close inspection I found even bubble pattern from casting...this coin had EVERY sign of a fake that one is told to look for.</font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 183939, member: 6370"]for one thing it is a copy of a paduan medal which are fake medals, extremely nice well done medals, but they were made in the 16th century...so one could say its a fake of a fake...the one below is even a cast of an orginal and isnt a real example of the original fake...but it is cast from an original and a real good cast...the original fakes are VERY expensive collectors items now... here is the coin it is trying to emulate: [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/12531/132303.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/albums/userpics/16229/domitian.jpg[/IMG] I would be thrilled if it WAS a real paduan medal fake...here is a bit of info on them: Paduan – By this name are designated the false medals executed with much care and with surpassing skill by Giovanni del Cavino, surnamed il paduano, and by Bassiano. These fabricators of counterfeits, who are equally distinguished by the appelation of the Pauduans, copied medals from the antique, or according to the antique method, or they composed designs for reverses with a profound knowledge of history. These medals belong to the 16th century AD, and are held in great repute, and are still much in request on account of their beautiful workmanship. It is to the Paduans, and also the Dutchman Carteron that the greatest portion of false coins are to be ascribed, which find a place in almost all cabinets. The French King's Collection at Paris contains a fine suite of these mock antiquities. here are more of them: [URL="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=2&page=1"]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=2&page=1[/URL] [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Now when I saw it, I was not aware of these medals...but the coin was the size of a sestersius but the weight was closer to an As...the style of the rev. is not right, generic and soft, no signs of a sharp strike like a cast of a cast fake...wrong style is something that can only be determined after seeing a lot of ancients, the portrait is nice and is common to domitian coins, the portrait is style is off and lettering is fat and soft where letter is supposed to be sharp edged from a strike, even with wear, where the letter hits the flan should be more angular |_ and instead it is blended soft like a poor cast that doesnt quite get the sharp edges....I still am not sure of what metal it is made of but it is real light weight and has white and red corrosion, seems to be almost rusting red and white (maybe zinc and aluminium)...it didnt have the weight and heft of a sestersius. On closer inspection of the coins edge I found very obvious signs of having been filed...and with close inspection I found even bubble pattern from casting...this coin had EVERY sign of a fake that one is told to look for.[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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