Contaminated Dellars Darkner and my whacked S VDB!

I am totally trying that.

 

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Golly Gee when I mentioned olive oil they thought

Golly Gee when I mentioned olive oil they thought I was making a salad.
It is one of dozens of things that will improve the right candidate in copper many times leaving it much better than ever - one needs to experiment though and learn the ropes like everybody else does.
Some of us (I've heard) have got coins past the Gods themselves PCGS, yes cleaned copper key date Lincolns and Indians - go figure where there is a will there is a way. Once you can lift fingerprints and leave the coin more beautiful than it's been in 50 years your on your way.
This like all things are learned over many years though - don't think for a minute the learning curve can be shortened, it cannot.

 

Despite all you've done to your '09 S VDB the details are still attractive and is a coin one that I don't have and would love to own. If you're still into messing with this coin to improve it then try "Bag Balm". It's a petrolatum Lanolin Base with Hydroxy Quinoline Sulfate(0.3%): medicinal Vaseline. Originally made for cows, ewes, sows & goats udders, I've found it to be quite the healing hand ointment for my severely dry, chapped hands, due to acute &/or chronic exposure to cold & wet winter conditions. I know many people that work in these conditions that swear by it as a healing agent for cracked & broken skin.

The effects on your coins are not known to me, but the sulfur and the petrolatum might re-tone this coin to an acceptably shade of copper.

As always, try it on other test coins first and see what it does. I've often wondered what it would do to modern Unc Lincoln as well as older Lincoln wheat cents.

Good luck with your endeavors to find the wholey grail of coin altering. It would be great to see that coin looking primo again.

Bruce

 

I've got old Wayte Raymond Lincoln cent page you could put it in to help tone the coin.

 

I absolutely agree with you Thad. WE ALL HAVE BOUGHT PROBLEM COINS!!!! Question is what to do with them. They are not worthless, just WORTH Less. Cleaned S VDB's still go for $700-1000 in genuine holders at times depending on eye appeal. Worthless?? Hardly. Many would pay $700 for a cleaned EF rarity than pay $1300 + for the same grade coin uncleaned if funds were tight and they really wanted the coin and that's the most they could afford (aren't we all poor nowadays??). If we can improve the look of these coins to more natural why would we leave them ugly- I am mostly responding to GD's post. I don't understand such a response. I think we should all try to tone our damaged, scratched coins in order to have a pretty coin for the future. Heavily toned coins hide damage. We all know that and some of those coins go for big money. As long as we don't dip the coin, who cares. An attractive coin is an attractive coin. A freshly dipped pink/pumpkin Lincoln is bottom line ugly. If one could improve the look of such coins why would we leave them ugly. Look at all the Barber dimes/quarters that are heavily toned with beautiful colors-blues, reds, magenta, etc.. Are they scratched, rubbed, scrubbed under that toning? We would never know unless we dipped them. Dipping should always be done knowing you might get a thrashed coin afterward. Dip at your own risk. I have never dipped a valuable coin. I only do on low value coins for my learning. I have some badly carbon spotted coins that I inherited with 63 reverses and damaged obverses. I have dipped those for fun. They were only worth melt. Just my humble thoughts.
By the way I sent the S VDB to NCS. I know what I said about NCS but I believe they are good at these type of coins. Doug said you need to know what type of coins to send. This was is one of them in my opinion. I know they are good at getting off ugly toning which my coin has and I know what's under this coin. I have acetoned all the oil out of it and have seen it as raw as can be. If they get off that gray look I will be elated. If it comes back very light or cleaned looking that's ok. I will get it retoned. I won't quit this coin!!
Marked for them to send to NGC if it will grade. I will start a new post when it's back. Hopefully all can learn from my shanangains- is that how you spell that??
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so it doesnt happen in a few seconds then thats a relief

 

FWIW your fallen angels have slabbed counterfeit coins