Constantius the Pale

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  1. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Supporter! Supporter

    Constantius I, also named Constantius Chlorus or Constantius the Pale is my latest acquisition.
    Why the nickname « the Pale » ? Just because of the alleged paleness of his face. He was maybe the grandnephew of Claudius the Gothicus, but it is not a certainty. He was adopted and declared Caesar in 292 by Maximian Hercules. On the first May of 305 AD he was recognized with Galerius Maximianus as Augusti, and reign as co-emperors with Maximinus Daza and Fl.Severus. Constantius was married twice ; his first wife was a Saint ! (Helena) and his second one was Theodora ( daughter of Maximian Hercules). He had 6 children with Theodora and only one with Helena, Constantine (he was a Great son...). The urban legend says that he was a Christian ; but the only facts we have is that he showed not only tolerance, but a genuine sympathy towards the persecuted members of that religion. Convinced of their fidelity, he offered them an asylum in his own palace. In 305-306 AD he fought against the Picts in Britain, and during the summer he felt sick. He then recommended Constantinus to be his successor and finally he died on 25 July 306, paler than ever...
    Now please show me your Constantius the Pale coins !

    Was he really that pale ?

    Constantine and Helena (Saint Isaac’s Cathedral)

    And my new baby :
    Ae post reform Radiate Fraction
    Cyzicus 2nd Officina 23 mm 3.15g RIC VI 19a
    Constantius receiving Globe from Jupiter
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  3. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    Very nice hes one I need for the family set.

    also this does not look like a woman to me, that shadow makes it look like a little beard.
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice write-up and super coin @Ocatarinetabellatchitchix .

    I only have one of his when he was dead,

    RI Constantius I Chlorus 293-306 CE DIVO AE Quinarius Thesalonika 317-318 Seated RIC VII 25 R5
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  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    Very informative and another great coin, I only have a posthumous coin of his. Divo Constantius.jpg Divus Constantius 27mm, 5.92gm, 307-308 AD, eagle standing on domed temple
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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    Great story Ocat'

    Constantius, Argenteus - Antioch mint, 8th officina, c. AD 296-297
    CONSTANTIVS CAESAR, Laureate head of Constantius right
    VIRTVS MILITVM, Campgate, *ANTH* at exergue
    3.40 gr
    Ref : Cohen #318, RCV # 13966 (1100)

  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I did not know these came in posthumous issues. Interesting.

    I have two lifetime issues. Both with some rather obvious problems, but I really like the massiveness of the portraits - that Caesar issue is almost a caricature (by contemporary standards - back then that may have been "the look" for potentates).

    Constantine Chlorus as Aug Aug 2018 (3).JPG

    Constantius I Chlorus as Aug.
    (struck by Maximinus Daia)
    Æ Post-reform radiate
    (305-306 A.D.) Alexandria

    IMP C CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped, cuir. bust rt. / CONCORDIA MIL-
    ITVM, Constantius r. receiving Victory from Jupiter l., Δ /ALE.
    RIC VI Alexandria 59a.
    (3.68 grams / 20 mm)

    Constantine Chlorus from Lot Mar 2019 (0).jpg

    Constantius I Chlorus as Caes.
    (struck by Maximian) Follis
    (301 A.D.) Aquileia

    NOSTR, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae, V in right field, mintmark AQΓ.
    RIC VI Aquileia 32a.
    (8.70 grams / 26 mm)
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Constantius I 3.jpg
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, laureate head right (large head type)
    REVERSE: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, Carthago standing facing, head left, in long robe, holding fruits in both hands. Mintmark Gamma
    Struck at Carthage 298-299 AD
    7.41g, 28mm
    RIC VI 32a
  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish) Supporter

    Nice addition @Ocatarinetabellatchitchix . Here are a few of my Constantius I Chlorus examples.

    Roman Empire
    Constantius I (as Caesar, AD 293-305).
    AE Follis, Siscia mint, 2nd officina, struck AD 295
    Dia.: 28 mm
    Wt.: 9.79
    Obv.: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES Laureate head of Constantius to right.
    Rev.: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI /B /*SIS Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia. Ref.: RIC 90a

    Roman Empire
    Constantius Chlorus (AD 293-306)
    AE Follis, silvered, Lugdunum/traveling mint, struck ca. AD 296
    Obv.: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB C; Laureate bust right
    Rev.: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI; genius standing left holding patera and cornucopia
    Ref.: RIC VI 17a
    Ex James Pickering Collection of Britannic Coinage
  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    I’ve always the Constantius portraits with the curls in his beard.

    AR Argenteus. 3.35g, 19.6mm
  11. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    Nice OP coin :)
    This antoninianus is from the emperor who appointed him Caesar. It has the same reverse.


    Maximianus Herculius, silvered antoninianus
    21 mm, 3.93 g, Kyzikos.
    Obv. IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust to right.
    Rev. CONCORDIA MILITVM, Emperor in military dress receiving globe from Jupiter; S in field, XXI (dot) in exergue.
    RIC 607.
  12. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    My favourite Constantius Chlorus. Its an "AVCTA KART" reverse. @Valentinian pointed out that this is rarer than the "FEL KART" reverse.

    298 - 299 A.D., Carthage Mint, 3rd Officina
    8.21g, 28.0mm, 6H

    Head of Constantius Chlorus, laureate, right

    Carthage, wearing long robe, standing front, head left, holding fruits in both hands

    Exergue: -/-//Γ

    Reference: RIC VI Carthage 28a
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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Constantius I Chlorus (with classic Curly beard)

    Obv:- FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES; Laureate head right
    Rev:- GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI; Genius of the Roman People standing facing, head left, holding cornucopia and pouring libation from patera
    Minted in Alexandria (XX | E/I //ALE). A.D. 301
    Ref:- RIC VI Alexandria 33a

    10.35g, 27.21mm, 180o

    Slight double strike on reverse

  15. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Constantius I - two folles and antoninian

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  16. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    I really like Constantius the pale and I'm trying to get a mint set of him as Caesar.

    Here's one from Alexandria:
  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    How about a left facing Trier?
    Constantius I Chlorus
    Obv:–CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, Laureate, bust left
    Rev:– GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chalmys over left shoulder, right holding patera, left cornucopia
    Minted in Treveri (A in left , TR in exe). c. A.D. 295
    Reference:– RIC VI Treveri 160a (Rated Scarce)

    It should also be noted that the usual reverse break for these coins is PV-LI and RIC notes that the OP-VL break occurs but very rarely.

    Weight 11.21 gms which is heavier than expected for this issue with RIC noting a weight range of 8.5gms to 10.5 gms.

  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Constantius I has interesting coins from start to finish:

    as Caesar, / Providentia, Lugdunum thunderbolt mintmark

    Posthumous / eagle Rome

    another as shown above by Alegandron but Siscia mint
  19. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Supporter! Supporter

    A month ago this nice Theodora was sold for 90 a German auction. I’m wondering who is the « infant held by Pietas » ?

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