Constantinopolis commemorative--early obverse; late reverse

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Victory on prow type Constantinopolis commemorative from Aquileia (Mintmark AQS in exergue). The obverse has the inscription CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS, as used in AD 334-September, 335 with reverses that have either nothing in the left field (RIC vii, p. 407, no. 123) or a star in the left field (RIC vii, p. 408, no. 129).

    However, the reverse has an F in the field at left, as used in AD September 335-336, which supposedly is used with obverses containing the inscription, CONSTANTI-NOPOLIS (RIC vii, p. 409, no. 137).

    Constantinopolis Commemorative Aquileia.jpg

    I can only assume this coin was minted sometime in September or October, 335, during a transition of reverse types.

    Thoughts?

    And feel free to share your Constantinopolis commemorative types!
     
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I don't think it is transitional, just inconsistent. The footnotes for 137 mention another break with CONSTANT-INOPOLIS. Below are two examples, one with N-T and the other with I-N from my page - http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/comm/

    Constantinopolis Aquileia 137.JPG Aquileia137.jpeg
     
  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks, @Victor_Clark

    There's the little note...

    Capture.JPG

    And mine reads CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS.
     
  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, sorry that I wasn't clear that in reference to the T-I break in the footnotes I meant "another" as in addition to N-T and I-N; rather than another like yours.
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Roman Collector => congrats on scoring that sweet OP-commemorative (great colour)

    I also have an example that I've always been fond of ... wanna see it? (again)


    Con Comm a.jpg Con Comm b.jpg


    ... great coins, fellas

    :rolleyes:
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    shield with side profile

    Constantinopolis Lyons 246.JPG

    commemorative with star
    CommArles352ii.JPG

    Silvered example

    Alexandria64.jpeg
    Shield with quadripartite division
    Siscia224q1.JPG

    eyes to the Heavens

    Trier548 (1).jpeg
     
  8. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Nice one.

    Aquileia coins are one of the harder ones to find. My Aquileia has the star.

    AQS ex victor.JPG


    Here are a few different ones from other mints.

    PCONST with Chi Rho

    PCONST chi rho.JPG

    CONSIA with a plume on the helmet

    CONSIA plume.JPG

    Rome small flan with unbroken legend

    Rome no legened break.JPG

    Trier with strange legend (unofficial?)

    PTR.JPG

    PCON with X in left field

    PCON.JPG
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    RI commem AE Follis CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS Victory Prow Shield RIC VII Trier 543.JPG
    RI Commem Urbs Constantinopolis Victory Commem O-R.JPG
    RI Commem AE 17 Constantinopolis 227-340 Victory Alexandria RIC VIII 17 O-R.jpg
     
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  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Here's mine:

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    Time of Constantine I, AD 306 - 337
    EA, 1.7g, 19mm; 6h; Thessalonica, Greece
    Obv.: CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS; bust left, laur. helmet, wearing imperial cloak, reversed spear
    Rev.: Victory standing left on prow holding spear and shield
    In Ex.: SMTS⌂
    Ref: NOT IN RIC, unlisted officinal - ⌂. For THESSALONICA 229 and 230 the weight range is 1.2g - 2g. the average weight being 1.52g. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/notinric/7the230_d.html
     
  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I happen to have these 3 coins together having Victory on reverse. Victory O.jpg Victory R.jpg
     
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