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<p>[QUOTE="Victor_Clark, post: 7755383, member: 10613"]My last post remined me that I had some more provenanced campgates and in an effort to rebut criticisms on FAC that this board is too frivolous, I insist that you learn something numismatic from this post...no frivolity.</p><p><br /></p><p>I recently acquired a large group of ex-Peter Weiß...if you do not know who that is, you must not be interested in Constantinian era history; but if that's not true, then you should read "The Vision of Constantine." Journal of Roman Archeology 16, 2003, pp. 237-259.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the first one, from Siscia, like my first coin in this topic. This example has fewer rows, but does have dots in the top row and what I think might be an attempt to simulate crenellations --</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328560[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Constantine II</p><p>A.D. 328- 329</p><p>18x19mm 2.8g</p><p>CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C; laureate head right.</p><p>PROVIDEN-TIAE CAESS; camp gate, two turrets, no doors, star above.</p><p>In ex. ESIS double crescent</p><p>RIC VII Siscia 216</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>and a Crispus from Arles---</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328571[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Crispus</p><p>A.D. 324- 325</p><p>19mm 3.2gm</p><p>FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES; Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.</p><p>PROVIDEN-TIAE CAESS; camp gate with four turrets and star between them; open doors.</p><p>in ex. S✶AR</p><p>RIC VII Arles 266</p><p><br /></p><p>note the errant dot on obverse between the bust and first letter of the legend.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The majority of the coins I got, including the next campgate, have similar patinas and lots of silvering; which makes it seem like they could be from the same hoard. I was researching two not in RIC and not campgate coins and discovered that they appear to be plate coins for the Bikić-Do Hoard. It is hard to be sure that they are not merely just die matches though because of the way the photos in the book were edited, with some of the edges missing.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Bikić-Do Hoard was discovered in Serbia in 1952. There were 10,590 coins, mostly from Eastern mints. 22 coins dated before A.D. 318 and 9 after A.D. 324. There were no Licinius IOVI types retarrifed to 12 and a half. I looked quickly through the book and the latest coin I saw was a two standards GLORIA EXERCITVS from Heraclea, struck A.D. 331, which gives an idea for the date the hoard was buried; though as mentioned earlier, almost all the coins were from A.D. 318- 324.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sirmium VIII. <b>Études de Numismatique Danubienne: Trésors, Lingots, Imitations. Monnaies de Fouilles IV au XII Siècle</b> (Rome: Ecole francaise de Rome, 1978)</p><p><br /></p><p>As an aside, this is a great reference for Constantinian VLPP coinage from Siscia.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the campgate that I suspect was part of the hoard. As I mentioned, the other coins have similar surfaces with lots of silvering, and the silvering is one aspect of the hoard that was noted in the book, and mostly from Eastern mints. It would probably be better for demonstration purposes if I posted the other coins, but it is about 15 in total.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328574[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately I do not know how the hoard was dispersed and find no records of it, though it is certainly credible that Peter Weiß could have obtained a few examples.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Victor_Clark, post: 7755383, member: 10613"]My last post remined me that I had some more provenanced campgates and in an effort to rebut criticisms on FAC that this board is too frivolous, I insist that you learn something numismatic from this post...no frivolity. I recently acquired a large group of ex-Peter Weiß...if you do not know who that is, you must not be interested in Constantinian era history; but if that's not true, then you should read "The Vision of Constantine." Journal of Roman Archeology 16, 2003, pp. 237-259. Here is the first one, from Siscia, like my first coin in this topic. This example has fewer rows, but does have dots in the top row and what I think might be an attempt to simulate crenellations -- [ATTACH=full]1328560[/ATTACH] Constantine II A.D. 328- 329 18x19mm 2.8g CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C; laureate head right. PROVIDEN-TIAE CAESS; camp gate, two turrets, no doors, star above. In ex. ESIS double crescent RIC VII Siscia 216 and a Crispus from Arles--- [ATTACH=full]1328571[/ATTACH] Crispus A.D. 324- 325 19mm 3.2gm FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES; Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. PROVIDEN-TIAE CAESS; camp gate with four turrets and star between them; open doors. in ex. S✶AR RIC VII Arles 266 note the errant dot on obverse between the bust and first letter of the legend. The majority of the coins I got, including the next campgate, have similar patinas and lots of silvering; which makes it seem like they could be from the same hoard. I was researching two not in RIC and not campgate coins and discovered that they appear to be plate coins for the Bikić-Do Hoard. It is hard to be sure that they are not merely just die matches though because of the way the photos in the book were edited, with some of the edges missing. The Bikić-Do Hoard was discovered in Serbia in 1952. There were 10,590 coins, mostly from Eastern mints. 22 coins dated before A.D. 318 and 9 after A.D. 324. There were no Licinius IOVI types retarrifed to 12 and a half. I looked quickly through the book and the latest coin I saw was a two standards GLORIA EXERCITVS from Heraclea, struck A.D. 331, which gives an idea for the date the hoard was buried; though as mentioned earlier, almost all the coins were from A.D. 318- 324. Sirmium VIII. [B]Études de Numismatique Danubienne: Trésors, Lingots, Imitations. Monnaies de Fouilles IV au XII Siècle[/B] (Rome: Ecole francaise de Rome, 1978) As an aside, this is a great reference for Constantinian VLPP coinage from Siscia. Here is the campgate that I suspect was part of the hoard. As I mentioned, the other coins have similar surfaces with lots of silvering, and the silvering is one aspect of the hoard that was noted in the book, and mostly from Eastern mints. It would probably be better for demonstration purposes if I posted the other coins, but it is about 15 in total. [ATTACH=full]1328574[/ATTACH] Unfortunately I do not know how the hoard was dispersed and find no records of it, though it is certainly credible that Peter Weiß could have obtained a few examples.[/QUOTE]
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