Constans Hut

I thought I'd try dabbling in more Fel Temp hut coins in between horseman and picked this on up.


Constans
Billon centenionalis 21mm, 4.3g
D N CONSTA-NS P F AVG Pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust left, globe in right hand./ FEL•TEMP•REPA-RATIO Helmeted soldier, spear in left hand, advancing right, head left; with his right hand he leads a small bare-headed figure from a hut beneath a tree. The spear points upwards and to the right.
Exergue: ΔSIS(Symbol 4)M

Siscia, officina 4; 348-350 CE
Ref: RIC VIII Siscia 218; LRBC 1121
BW Ref: 107 024 079

Ex Moonmoth collection
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/moonmoth/coins/constans_107.htm

 

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Nice one Randy. I still need to grab me one of these types.

 

Good coin, and a bit more interesting than the usual LRB, good pick up.

 

It is a really nice example. Good pickup.

Here is mine from the same collection.

Constans - AE2

Obv:- D N CONSTA-NS P F AVG, Laureate and rosette-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust left, globe in right hand
Rev:- FEL•TEMP•REPA-RATIO, Helmeted soldier, spear in left hand, advancing right, head left; with his right hand he leads a small bare-headed figure from a hut beneath a tree. The spear points downwards, between the soldier's legs
Minted in Siscia; (// BSIS(Symbol 2)M ), A.D. 348-350
Reference:– RIC VIII Siscia 217 (C). LRBC 1121 var (Hut 2)

Ex-Moonmoth collection

 

Thanks all.

Thats a great coin Martin! I was late to the party and only grabbed a few.

In case some dont know, here is his pages on FTR Huts

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/moonmoth/hut_coins.html

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/moonmoth/hut_analysis.html

 

Sweet OP-score, geki ... congrats on your new hut-gut

Ummm, I also happen to have a humble Constans example ...

 

nice pick-up randy... my only hut so far is a Constantius II....


Constantius II AE2 Follis. Aquileia mint. 337-361 AD

CONSTANT-IVS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust
left, holding globe
FEL TEMP REPAR-ATIO, soldier holding spear, point upwards,
leading small figure from a hut beneath a tree with pod-like leaves.
Mintmark AQS dot. rated common
22 mm, 3.8 g
RIC VIII 102, S

 

Super 'hut' example guys!!!

For me, 'focusing' on these types (and FH types) is something I have to put off a bit---so many other coins constantly catch my eye and my budget first.

 

Nice addition, Randy.

Been thinking of upgrading mine since its one of my first ancients.

 

I love this coin type. Good OP pickup. And rarely do I say, "Nice flan," but Ken's coin is remarkable for that feature.

Despite my love of this coin type, I too was late in realizing that Bill Welch (I think that's his name) was selling off his "moonmoth" collection. I was able to get examples from Rome, Trier, and Lyons from him. He was very gracious in cutting me a deal for all three. I just need Arles to complete a mint city set for Constans.

Given his considerable time investment in these coins, I wonder why Bill's selling. I hope he is well. In any event, his Forum webpages on this type were a real service to the numismatic community, both collectors and academics alike.

One tidbit about this type: Konrad Kraft believed that this so-called "barbarian and hut" type was much more common for Constans than for Constantius II. From my collecting pursuits, I have experienced this to be true, albeit unscientifically.

 

A set for Constans didn't take too long. Constantius is looking much harder.

 

BTW, here's my coin from Siscia, to compare with the OP coin. I've always thought my Siscia had a strange style. The obverse portrait has a "puffy" jawline, more like Magnentius's. And the reverse is quite angular, with its own appeal, but hardly graceful. I've typically attributed the style to simple engraver variations, but I've also wondered if it was unofficial (doubtful) or even (gulp) fake. I bought it in 2007 from cichosgladiator@aol.com on German eBay. At any rate, it has always seemed a bit of a stylistic outlier. 19.12 mm. ;2.45 g.

 

Thanks and sweet coins all.

I was thinking Constantius II would haven been easier and starting getting some of his hut coins; Oh well, more of a challenge will be fun

I picked up a Constans for a Siscia mint sent of him. I only need the captive FTR now.

Gavin, that last one does seem a bit odd in style, neat coin.

 

I have my own theories on this coin type that I've unfolded ad nauseum, so I will spare everyone here. But regarding the association of Constans with this type, here's the relevant Kraft argument, from an early essay I wrote about the coin: "Konrad Kraft ... argued in very specific terms that the ‘barbarian and hut’ reverse represents Constans’ peaceful settlement of the Franks in Toxandria (present-day Belgium). Constantius II also minted the ‘barbarian and hut’ type, but Kraft asserted that the ‘Typ Hütte’ is to be principally associated with Constans because of the overwhelming number of ‘barbarian and hut’ reverses struck for that emperor, especially by Eastern mints, even though Constans was Emperor in the West."

In other words, if Eastern mints were striking the hut coins in large numbers even for a WESTERN emperor (Constans), then there must be something special between Constans and the scene depicted on this coin type.

 

I believe only 7 of the 13 mints that struck huts for Constans also struck them for Constantius.

 

Well I suppose for the moment, I'll have a mixed collection of Huts.

What are the numbers for the other FTR types? According the Danes FH ric spreadsheet, there are 15 mints for Constantius II and 9 for Constans.

 

Went to the local shop to look at their RIC to see if I could find out, but thats the only volume they didn't have :/ lol

 

Maybe folks didn't quite understand your query. There are multiple FTP reverse types. I don't know if they were minted uniformly for each emperor at each mint. I think the FTR "barbarian-hut" type for Constans has these 13 mint cities. Let me know if I'm missing one or more.

Alexandria
Antioch
Aquileia
Arelatum
Constantinople
Cyzicus
Heraclea
Lugdunum
Nicomedia
Rome
Siscia
Thessalonica
Treveri

 

nice RG...i'm still lookin' for a hut LRB,s o nothing to share.

 

Questions like who struck what where are easy to find in Bruck which is a book every collector of late Romans should own despite the fact that it is not an 'and their values' catalog. Buy it wherever you wish. The hardback is twice as much so I bought the papeback. The original was in German if that is easier for you than this English version.
https://www.amazon.com/Late-Roman-B...F8&qid=1488161416&sr=8-1&keywords=bruck+guido