Connecticut Colonial Coppers

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  1. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Member

    Hey all. Looking for knowledge on these Connecticut Colonial Coppers. I see some are worth a good amount. I am trying to establish what makes some more valuable than others? I assume it all comes down to condition? Also what would one like this be worth you think?
     

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  3. SamuelFred1

    SamuelFred1 I Guess I'm Kind Of a Decent Member at This Point?

    It is in about G-04 condition. It is about an $80 coin.
     
  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I am not an expert, and I mostly collect colonial and Confederation coins by type. The value of Connecticut is determined by the state of preservation, but the die variety is also very important, sometimes critical in determining the value. The dies were made by hand and the differences between one coin and another are obvious to those who specialize them.
     
  5. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Member

    what about countermarked ones? More value?
     
  6. SamuelFred1

    SamuelFred1 I Guess I'm Kind Of a Decent Member at This Point?

    I don't see any countermarkings. Countermarkings actually bring the value down.
     
  7. Lyricfive

    Lyricfive Member

    I have a few with countermarks as well....similar in condition
     
  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    No to me. I don't like most of them, but some collectors admire specific counterstamps.
     
  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster It seemed like a good idea at the time.

    As @johnmilton said the value depends on the specific variety. I'm only a novice when it comes to IDing colonials and I don't have access to my reference books, but your pics may be too dark. These are the standard references for CT colonials

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  10. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    As already stated, variety and condition. A low grade rare variety may be worth more than a high grade common variety. Yours is good enough to ID the variety if you want to spend the time with it. While there are countermark collectors, to the average Connecticut collector it would be considered damage.
     
  11. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    I guess I never addressed the value of the coin. If it is a common variety probably $20 to $25. A rare variety could be up into the thousands, so the variety is the biggest factor.
     
  12. capecoinone

    capecoinone New Member

    I have a con. copper and the liberty on the back is upside down is this normal?
     
  13. capecoinone

    capecoinone New Member

    I have a conn. copper and the liberty on the back is upside down is this normal?
     
  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    What you are talking about is "coin turn" versus "medal turn."

    Most coins have the dies aligned so that the designs are in the proper position when you turn the coin over, head over heals, or on the horizonal axis. Most medals are aligned so that the designs are in the proper position when you turn the piece by the vertical axis.

    If a coin is out of the proper alignment, it is said that the dies are rotated. In the old days, and I’m an old collector, most people were not that thrilled with this. Now it seems that some collectors prize such pieces.

    Sadly, I am not an expert on Connecticut coppers, so I can’t say if your coin is unusual. Given the primitive conditions under which these coins were made, it is certainly possible.

    Off the top of my head, I would say that it does not add much to the value. But the experts should chime in since I’m not an expert on these coins.
     
  15. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Not at all unusual. On some varieties it is the norm.
     
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