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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1345516, member: 68"]There's another point as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't want to weigh in on the side of "looting cultural heritage" and do not approve of smuggling and breaking laws. But look at the law that made this coin the property of the Italian government. It says that any artifact found in Italy belongs to the Itaian government. Just who died and made the Italian government heir to everything. Who died and took away the property rights of the person who owned the land on which the artifact was found. </p><p><br /></p><p>If the law was fair it would read that only the Italian government had right of first refusal on the coin. If they wanted it at then let them pay the finder and the owner of the land some sort of commission or reward. Who exactly determines what is "worthy" of being an artifact and what is just bric-a-brac. Who profits when coins are confiscated from Italian citizens and then never go on display or into a museum. Who has possession of those hundreds of collections confiscated from German citizens. Are they just turned over to rich people and the well connected. Are they passed out as change at the museum.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can understand the willingnbess of the US to enter into treaties with foreign governments on a subject so important as "cultural heritage" but does our signing of such treaties include the hidden arrest of a person who didn't actually steal anything. Yes, if he's guilty of breaking laws then he should be charged and prosecuted but "dealing in stolen goods" is not exactly trading in stolen goods whjen in actuality someone merely prevented the Italian gpovernment from stealing something from its own people and the "dealer in stolen goods" didn't hit anyone over the head.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bottom line is this is an American citizen who is in technical violation of a treaty signed by an one government to support another government. Citizenship now days just means one has the right to eat pink slime but there was a time when "We the People" actually meant something. Who died and turned it into "we the government"?</p><p><br /></p><p>It was "We the People" who fought and died in countless wars to maintain things like property rights.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 1345516, member: 68"]There's another point as well. I don't want to weigh in on the side of "looting cultural heritage" and do not approve of smuggling and breaking laws. But look at the law that made this coin the property of the Italian government. It says that any artifact found in Italy belongs to the Itaian government. Just who died and made the Italian government heir to everything. Who died and took away the property rights of the person who owned the land on which the artifact was found. If the law was fair it would read that only the Italian government had right of first refusal on the coin. If they wanted it at then let them pay the finder and the owner of the land some sort of commission or reward. Who exactly determines what is "worthy" of being an artifact and what is just bric-a-brac. Who profits when coins are confiscated from Italian citizens and then never go on display or into a museum. Who has possession of those hundreds of collections confiscated from German citizens. Are they just turned over to rich people and the well connected. Are they passed out as change at the museum. I can understand the willingnbess of the US to enter into treaties with foreign governments on a subject so important as "cultural heritage" but does our signing of such treaties include the hidden arrest of a person who didn't actually steal anything. Yes, if he's guilty of breaking laws then he should be charged and prosecuted but "dealing in stolen goods" is not exactly trading in stolen goods whjen in actuality someone merely prevented the Italian gpovernment from stealing something from its own people and the "dealer in stolen goods" didn't hit anyone over the head. The bottom line is this is an American citizen who is in technical violation of a treaty signed by an one government to support another government. Citizenship now days just means one has the right to eat pink slime but there was a time when "We the People" actually meant something. Who died and turned it into "we the government"? It was "We the People" who fought and died in countless wars to maintain things like property rights.[/QUOTE]
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