Confederate Stares 500 dollars!

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  1. Chopperhead

    Chopperhead Member

    Hey all, I have two of these, are they real? Any input on how to tell if fake, greatly appreciated!
     

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  3. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Ͳìɾҽժղҽʂʂ Ͳąҟҽղ ටѵҽɾ

    From what I can tell... yes, they do look real but, I’m not a coin nor paper money expert... maybe @SteveInTampa can help
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Brittle looking, parchment-like paper?

    One-sided printing?

    Sorry, they look like tourist replicas to me.

    Do note that I am not a currency guy, though, so take my admonition with the proverbial grain of salt.

    I think they're bad, but I could be wrong.
     
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  5. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Ͳìɾҽժղҽʂʂ Ͳąҟҽղ ටѵҽɾ

    I thought confederate notes are one sided?
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I don't think so. Not the ones I've had, (*as far as I can remember). Maybe there were some types that were uniface, but I don't know.

    Those one-sided notes on stiff, crinkly parchment, however, are a common item at museum and state park gift shops, I know. Seen plenty of 'em.

    Though not a currency collector and thus out of my depth a bit, I would say I'm 90% confident these are fake. (*But I will stand corrected if I'm wrong.)
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Sometimes but the paper type gives it away
     
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  8. DarkRage666

    DarkRage666 Ͳìɾҽժղҽʂʂ Ͳąҟҽղ ටѵҽɾ

    Okay... that’s new info I didn’t know! Thanks!
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    It's been a long time since I had any CSA currency, so I honestly don't remember.

    Then again, I just did remember that I had this piece until about a year ago, and it is uniface. But it's a Richmond city issue (not CSA) and a fractional denomination (cents, not dollars). Small. So it may be a whole different thing.

    But it was printed on soft paper with a high cloth content. Not that crinkly yellowish parchment that you see the gift shop repros done on. Note the faded ink and evidence of wear, as well.

    (*Side note: they sure loved those "letters made out of logs" fonts in the 1860s and 1870s.)

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  10. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    They are copies printed by the Historical Products Company of Philadelphia.

    The serial number is on the bogus not list on Cutchfield Currency.
     
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  11. SteveInTampa

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  12. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Did they have the technology at that time to print the signature? Or, was each piece individually signed?
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I'll bet they had the technology, but all the notes I've seen from the period still had handwritten signatures. Note my Richmond city 75c example, above.
     
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  14. DarkRage666

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    All you need is a stamp... right? Ancient technology.
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Tourism notes for souvenirs.
     
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  16. Randy Abercrombie

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    One of the cooler CSA note collections that I have seen was where one note was signed and the signature ran off the note and the collector had the matching note that the signature ran over onto. They were a perfect match.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Each note was hand signed by 2 people. The serial numbers were also written. The serial numbers were also written by hand. This best describes what I'm saying. The signature on the top bill for the Treasurer goes well into the bottom bill. The serial number is the same on both bills, which was common but note the numbervon the bottom bill is an error as the last digit is missing. The top bill is plate number 5 and the bottom bill is plate number 6. The back of both bills is totally blank, also normal.
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  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @Randy Abercrombie I was typing while you posted this. Here it is again. Lol
     
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  19. Randy Abercrombie

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    Are those yours, Dave??? They are super cool!!
     
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  20. Chopperhead

    Chopperhead Member

    Hey, now i am getting confused, is it a def FAKE or not sure. I have a buyer fir 5 bucks just as collectibles for his grandkids, but if they are real, worth alot more. Is rhere anything on the bills, i could get a better pic on, or is this for sure FAKE. Thanks everyone, for chiming in. Even though i get confused, i love learning from you all. Yes. Paper is VERY yellow and brittle, edges almost appear singed.
     
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  21. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    @Chopperhead , definitely replicas, reproductions, fake, not authentic and not genuine Confederate issued paper money.
     
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