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<p>[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1933380, member: 32795"]Getting back to the OP original question, the mistake you are making is trying to use two books by two different authors together.</p><p> </p><p>Wexler and Wiles each has their own standards as to what makes the “cut” before a coin is classified as a doubled die.</p><p> </p><p>From my limited experience, I’m still trying to figure what Wiles uses for a standard. We have sent some coins into Wiles and he has confirmed as an already listed variety or given a new listing to the coin. We have also sent other coins in that we thought had stronger spreads in the doubling then others that were all ready listed only to have them returned with the dreaded observation “Too minor to list.”</p><p> </p><p>Wexler on the other hand, like my dad tells me, reminds us as Mikey from the old LIFE cereal commercials (the ones that had the punch line “Give it to Mikey, he eats everything”). When it comes to doubled dies, dad tells me “Send it to Wexler, he will list anything”. A standard joke a group that collects with us uses is: “If the eagle on the reverse of the Kennedy half dollar had a flea on it and the flea had a cataract on one of his eyes, Wexler would probably list it”.</p><p>Looking at the coin the OP posted, if you check the CONECA Master Listings for DMR-001: <a href="http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety%20Master%20Listings/kennedy%20doubled%20dies%201964.htm#_1964-D" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety%20Master%20Listings/kennedy%20doubled%20dies%201964.htm#_1964-D" rel="nofollow"><u>http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety%20Master%20Listings/kennedy%20doubled%20dies%201964.htm#_1964-D</u></a></p><p><b>1964-D</b></p><p> </p><p>MDO-002</p><p> </p><p><i>Designation:</i></p><p> </p><p><b>MD-2-O-II-C (P, D, PR)</b></p><p><i>Description:</i></p><p> </p><p>Light spread on WE TRUST, 64 of date, TY of LIBERTY, and hair under R of LIBERTY</p><p><i>Grade:</i></p><p> </p><p>MS65</p><p><i>Population:</i></p><p><i>Markers:</i></p><p> </p><p>ODV-002 (Normal hair)</p><p>Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state</p><p>UVC-039</p><p> </p><p>DMR-001</p><p> </p><p>Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)</p><p>UVC-040</p><p> </p><p>DMR-002</p><p> </p><p>Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G)</p><p><i>Reported by: </i>John A. Wexler</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>There is some doubling going on but it is “Master Doubling” or involved on more then one die.</p><p>If the OP wants to collect by Wexler numbers, knock your self out, have fun, the OP should collect the way he wants to or anyone else for that matter. Just realize that Wiles and Wexler each has their own standards on what makes a doubled die.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1933380, member: 32795"]Getting back to the OP original question, the mistake you are making is trying to use two books by two different authors together. Wexler and Wiles each has their own standards as to what makes the “cut” before a coin is classified as a doubled die. From my limited experience, I’m still trying to figure what Wiles uses for a standard. We have sent some coins into Wiles and he has confirmed as an already listed variety or given a new listing to the coin. We have also sent other coins in that we thought had stronger spreads in the doubling then others that were all ready listed only to have them returned with the dreaded observation “Too minor to list.” Wexler on the other hand, like my dad tells me, reminds us as Mikey from the old LIFE cereal commercials (the ones that had the punch line “Give it to Mikey, he eats everything”). When it comes to doubled dies, dad tells me “Send it to Wexler, he will list anything”. A standard joke a group that collects with us uses is: “If the eagle on the reverse of the Kennedy half dollar had a flea on it and the flea had a cataract on one of his eyes, Wexler would probably list it”. Looking at the coin the OP posted, if you check the CONECA Master Listings for DMR-001: [URL='http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety%20Master%20Listings/kennedy%20doubled%20dies%201964.htm#_1964-D'][U]http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety%20Master%20Listings/kennedy%20doubled%20dies%201964.htm#_1964-D[/U][/URL] [B]1964-D[/B] MDO-002 [I]Designation:[/I] [B]MD-2-O-II-C (P, D, PR)[/B] [I]Description:[/I] Light spread on WE TRUST, 64 of date, TY of LIBERTY, and hair under R of LIBERTY [I]Grade:[/I] MS65 [I]Population: Markers:[/I] ODV-002 (Normal hair) Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state UVC-039 DMR-001 Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G) UVC-040 DMR-002 Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G) [I]Reported by: [/I]John A. Wexler There is some doubling going on but it is “Master Doubling” or involved on more then one die. If the OP wants to collect by Wexler numbers, knock your self out, have fun, the OP should collect the way he wants to or anyone else for that matter. Just realize that Wiles and Wexler each has their own standards on what makes a doubled die.[/QUOTE]
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