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<p>[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 234029, member: 669"]Okay friends, if you’re not interested in the details of why I estimate the total melt value of the coins to be <$100, and their approximate <b>pre-soldering</b> numismatic value at <$75, feel perfectly free to progress to the next thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>Those of you hungry for all those nitty-gritty details, turn on your IPOD, get your popcorn bowl <img src="http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/popcorn.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />, lean back in your favorite recliner, and read on. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The ones from 1917 are listed as KM#109 in the Standard Catalog of Worlds Coins (“Krause”) 20th Century 34th Edition (2007). 1,073,000 of them were struck in 1917, valued at $2.50 F, $5 VF, $10 XF and $20 Unc.</p><p><br /></p><p>The rest are KM#109a, the same design and diameter, but struck in .550 silver, a significant debasement from .15 oz. actual silver weight (“ASW”) to .1031 oz. ASW. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>From 1919-29 between 500,000 and 1,040,000 were struck each year except 1923. From 1919-21 they were struck at Bombay and in the other years they bear no mint mark, and were probably struck at Heaton in England. Values are listed at $1.50-2 F, $3.50-5 VF, $7-10 XF, and $16-20 Unc. Proofs were struck each year (again skipping 1923) and they are cataloged at $120 each.</p><p><br /></p><p>Based on the only photo posted, and assuming a roughly matched set, I have to assign a grade of F to all 26 coins, for an estimated numismatic value (pre-soldering of course) in the $30+/- range. Using a WAG of 1/4 KM#100s, the aggregate bullion value is somewhere in the neighborhood of $35 (silver is down guys).</p><p><br /></p><p>Just interesting? No. <img src="http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/893naughty-thumb.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Fascinating? Oh yes. <img src="http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/bigs/c013.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>1862, the first year of production for Victoria bust KM#473.1, 11.66g, .917 silver, 1 Rupees, is quite a study all by itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>To summarize the information in my 19th Century Krause 3rd Ed. (2001), the Calcutta, Bombay and Madras mints (using privy marks rather than letter mint marks) produced more than 700-million coins with that date, using various combinations of three different busts, and three reverses with differing details. Coins <b>with that date</b> were minted through 1874, and the various combinations of bust/reverse are attributed to specific years. Just to confuse things more, there were also official restrikes!</p><p><br /></p><p>Depending on assumed year of production, undamaged examples are valued in that edition from $5-15 F, $7.50-30 VF, $12.40-40 XF, and $25-80 Unc.; plus a $200 Calcutta proof and a $60 Calcutta restrike. No values are given for the three “rare” varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p>For 1889 (and later years) we have KM#473.2, also 11.66g of .917 silver. Mintage at Calcutta was 9,368,000 with an incuse “C” mint mark - $5 F, $8 VF, $12.50 XF, $25 Unc. At Bombay 65,300,000 were minted, with both incuse and raised “B” mint marks. Values are the same, except for the raised “B” version which is listed at $30 Unc. No proofs were struck, but proof-like restrikes are valued at $35.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1900 Bombay produced 65,237,000 incuse-lettered coins, plus a proof ($175), a proof-like silver restrike ($35) and a proof-like gold restrike (KM#492c, $850). Calcutta production was 5,291,000 incuse-lettered coins and a $175 proof. Business strikes from both mints catalog at $5 F, $8 VF, $12 XF and $25 Unc. for both 1900 and 1901, the first year of the 20th Century, which saw the final production of the design - 72,017,000 incuse mint marked Calcutta rupees, and 130,258,000 incuse mint marked Bombay coins. There were two varieties of the Bombay strikes, along with a $600 Bombay proof and a $200 proof-like Bombay restrike.Those are all KM#508 with the same 11.66g of .917 silver. Also, all four years are cataloged at the same $5-$25 as the Vickies described above, and in those particular years consisted of Calcutta coins with no mint mark, Bombay coins with an incuse “B”, Bombay proofs ($700) and Bombay proof-like restrikes ($200).</p><p><br /></p><p>The 9 coins making up the small belt have a combined melt value of ~$40, and an aggregate catalog value of ~$63, assuming an average F/VF condition based on the pictures posted.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 234029, member: 669"]Okay friends, if you’re not interested in the details of why I estimate the total melt value of the coins to be <$100, and their approximate [b]pre-soldering[/b] numismatic value at <$75, feel perfectly free to progress to the next thread. Those of you hungry for all those nitty-gritty details, turn on your IPOD, get your popcorn bowl [img]http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img], lean back in your favorite recliner, and read on. :D The ones from 1917 are listed as KM#109 in the Standard Catalog of Worlds Coins (“Krause”) 20th Century 34th Edition (2007). 1,073,000 of them were struck in 1917, valued at $2.50 F, $5 VF, $10 XF and $20 Unc. The rest are KM#109a, the same design and diameter, but struck in .550 silver, a significant debasement from .15 oz. actual silver weight (“ASW”) to .1031 oz. ASW. :eek: From 1919-29 between 500,000 and 1,040,000 were struck each year except 1923. From 1919-21 they were struck at Bombay and in the other years they bear no mint mark, and were probably struck at Heaton in England. Values are listed at $1.50-2 F, $3.50-5 VF, $7-10 XF, and $16-20 Unc. Proofs were struck each year (again skipping 1923) and they are cataloged at $120 each. Based on the only photo posted, and assuming a roughly matched set, I have to assign a grade of F to all 26 coins, for an estimated numismatic value (pre-soldering of course) in the $30+/- range. Using a WAG of 1/4 KM#100s, the aggregate bullion value is somewhere in the neighborhood of $35 (silver is down guys). Just interesting? No. [img]http://boards.collectors-society.com/images//graemlins/893naughty-thumb.gif[/img] Fascinating? Oh yes. [img]http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/bigs/c013.gif[/img] 1862, the first year of production for Victoria bust KM#473.1, 11.66g, .917 silver, 1 Rupees, is quite a study all by itself. To summarize the information in my 19th Century Krause 3rd Ed. (2001), the Calcutta, Bombay and Madras mints (using privy marks rather than letter mint marks) produced more than 700-million coins with that date, using various combinations of three different busts, and three reverses with differing details. Coins [b]with that date[/b] were minted through 1874, and the various combinations of bust/reverse are attributed to specific years. Just to confuse things more, there were also official restrikes! Depending on assumed year of production, undamaged examples are valued in that edition from $5-15 F, $7.50-30 VF, $12.40-40 XF, and $25-80 Unc.; plus a $200 Calcutta proof and a $60 Calcutta restrike. No values are given for the three “rare” varieties. For 1889 (and later years) we have KM#473.2, also 11.66g of .917 silver. Mintage at Calcutta was 9,368,000 with an incuse “C” mint mark - $5 F, $8 VF, $12.50 XF, $25 Unc. At Bombay 65,300,000 were minted, with both incuse and raised “B” mint marks. Values are the same, except for the raised “B” version which is listed at $30 Unc. No proofs were struck, but proof-like restrikes are valued at $35. In 1900 Bombay produced 65,237,000 incuse-lettered coins, plus a proof ($175), a proof-like silver restrike ($35) and a proof-like gold restrike (KM#492c, $850). Calcutta production was 5,291,000 incuse-lettered coins and a $175 proof. Business strikes from both mints catalog at $5 F, $8 VF, $12 XF and $25 Unc. for both 1900 and 1901, the first year of the 20th Century, which saw the final production of the design - 72,017,000 incuse mint marked Calcutta rupees, and 130,258,000 incuse mint marked Bombay coins. There were two varieties of the Bombay strikes, along with a $600 Bombay proof and a $200 proof-like Bombay restrike.Those are all KM#508 with the same 11.66g of .917 silver. Also, all four years are cataloged at the same $5-$25 as the Vickies described above, and in those particular years consisted of Calcutta coins with no mint mark, Bombay coins with an incuse “B”, Bombay proofs ($700) and Bombay proof-like restrikes ($200). The 9 coins making up the small belt have a combined melt value of ~$40, and an aggregate catalog value of ~$63, assuming an average F/VF condition based on the pictures posted.[/QUOTE]
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