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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;beef1020, post: 1800971, member: 24544&quot;]I guess every in group has their own lexicon to help distinguish themselves.&nbsp; I know number three bugs a lot of people, but I know some first rate numismatists, as in wrote the standard reference book on it, that use &#039;cud&#039; when it does not include the rim.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whatever, not paying attention to condition and originality are far more common, and costly, mistakes that most beginner make and ones worth pointing out.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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