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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24733600, member: 26430"]<blockquote><p>Anyone have an upgrade of a type already in their collection to share?</p><p>Or Commodus? coins relating to Roman-Germanic or Roman-Sarmatian wars?</p><p>Or more captives or trophies? (Though we've already had another recent captives thread, I always like to see more!)</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center"><b>--- --- ---</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a Commodus Denarius upgrade I just received for <a href="https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/" rel="nofollow">my "Captives & Barbarians" Collection</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>(<b>Full disclosure</b>: I posted this on Forum too, where I bought it.)</p><p><br /></p><p>I've previously posted some coins from my "Two-Captives-and-Trophy" sub-collection, from Julius Caesar to Constantine: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/captives-trophy-8-or-9-examples-from-julius-caesar-to-constantine-others-if-you-have-them.374729/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/captives-trophy-8-or-9-examples-from-julius-caesar-to-constantine-others-if-you-have-them.374729/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/captives-trophy-8-or-9-examples-from-julius-caesar-to-constantine-others-if-you-have-them.374729/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And more recently about the first Roman trophy-and-captive coins, a pair of AR Quinari (c. 101 & 98 BCE) commemorating a previous Germanic war: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-first-roman-captives-trophy-tableau-monument.407741/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-first-roman-captives-trophy-tableau-monument.407741/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-first-roman-captives-trophy-tableau-monument.407741/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1582210[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><blockquote><p><b>Commodus AR Denarius</b> (18mm, 2.31g, 12h), Rome mint, 180 CE.</p><p><b>Obv</b>: M COMMODVS ANTONINVS AVG. Laureate head right.</p><p><b>Rev</b>: TR P V IMP IIII COS II P P. Two captives seated back to back on shields propped against trophy of captive arms.</p><p><b>Ref</b>: RIC 9a; RSC 791; RCV 5706.</p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex Forum <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=&vpar=421&zpg=117096" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=&vpar=421&zpg=117096" rel="nofollow">RS111654</a> (2 Oct 2023).</p></blockquote></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>These coins do not name the captives on the reverse, or from whom the trophy of arms was captured. But this type must relate to the Marcomannic Wars of his father (<i>Bellum Germanicum et Sarmaticum</i>). Commodus, as a young Caesar, had accompanied Marcus Aurelius north to prosecute was against the Sarmatians and various Germanic tribes.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you remember the opening scenes of the movie <i>Gladiator</i>, I’m pretty sure the left captive is that burly bearded fellow who came out of the woods shouting in German and chucked a severed head at the Romans.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 176 (four years before this coin), the pair celebrated victory (perhaps a bit prematurely) with a Triumph in Rome. Captives-coinage was struck at that time with “DE SARM” and “DE GERM” (and related) legends.</p><p><br /></p><p>When M. Aurel. died in 180, Commodus promptly negotiated a peace, ending the wars (a few minor outbursts over the next year or two notwithstanding). Although the enemies' identities are not named here, I think this coin celebrates Commodus' conclusion of war in Germania.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1582212[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><b>Commodus AR Denarius</b> (19mm, 2.66g, 12h), Rome mint, 180 CE.</p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7783953" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7783953" rel="nofollow">Savoca 94th Bl. (30 Jan 2021), 1312</a>.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>As you can see, the new coin is much better than my previous specimen. I collect these for the interesting historical & sociological background, but more attractive portrait, surfaces, and details of the "trophy tableau" is always nicer!</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]1582218[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>One detail that is seemingly unique to Marcus Aurelius & Commodus’ version of the captives-and-trophy:</p><p><br /></p><p>The two captives are seated on shields propped against the trophy, not seated on the ground (as described by RIC, and as on most other rulers’ reverses of this type). (Almost a gentle touch, in a perverse Roman Imperial sort of way.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24733600, member: 26430"][INDENT]Anyone have an upgrade of a type already in their collection to share? Or Commodus? coins relating to Roman-Germanic or Roman-Sarmatian wars? Or more captives or trophies? (Though we've already had another recent captives thread, I always like to see more!)[/INDENT] [CENTER][B]--- --- ---[/B][/CENTER] Here's a Commodus Denarius upgrade I just received for [URL='https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/']my "Captives & Barbarians" Collection[/URL]. ([B]Full disclosure[/B]: I posted this on Forum too, where I bought it.) I've previously posted some coins from my "Two-Captives-and-Trophy" sub-collection, from Julius Caesar to Constantine: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/captives-trophy-8-or-9-examples-from-julius-caesar-to-constantine-others-if-you-have-them.374729/[/URL] And more recently about the first Roman trophy-and-captive coins, a pair of AR Quinari (c. 101 & 98 BCE) commemorating a previous Germanic war: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-first-roman-captives-trophy-tableau-monument.407741/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1582210[/ATTACH] [INDENT][INDENT][B]Commodus AR Denarius[/B] (18mm, 2.31g, 12h), Rome mint, 180 CE. [B]Obv[/B]: M COMMODVS ANTONINVS AVG. Laureate head right. [B]Rev[/B]: TR P V IMP IIII COS II P P. Two captives seated back to back on shields propped against trophy of captive arms. [B]Ref[/B]: RIC 9a; RSC 791; RCV 5706. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex Forum [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=&vpar=421&zpg=117096']RS111654[/URL] (2 Oct 2023).[/INDENT][/INDENT] These coins do not name the captives on the reverse, or from whom the trophy of arms was captured. But this type must relate to the Marcomannic Wars of his father ([I]Bellum Germanicum et Sarmaticum[/I]). Commodus, as a young Caesar, had accompanied Marcus Aurelius north to prosecute was against the Sarmatians and various Germanic tribes. If you remember the opening scenes of the movie [I]Gladiator[/I], I’m pretty sure the left captive is that burly bearded fellow who came out of the woods shouting in German and chucked a severed head at the Romans. In 176 (four years before this coin), the pair celebrated victory (perhaps a bit prematurely) with a Triumph in Rome. Captives-coinage was struck at that time with “DE SARM” and “DE GERM” (and related) legends. When M. Aurel. died in 180, Commodus promptly negotiated a peace, ending the wars (a few minor outbursts over the next year or two notwithstanding). Although the enemies' identities are not named here, I think this coin celebrates Commodus' conclusion of war in Germania. [ATTACH=full]1582212[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B]Commodus AR Denarius[/B] (19mm, 2.66g, 12h), Rome mint, 180 CE. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7783953']Savoca 94th Bl. (30 Jan 2021), 1312[/URL].[/INDENT] As you can see, the new coin is much better than my previous specimen. I collect these for the interesting historical & sociological background, but more attractive portrait, surfaces, and details of the "trophy tableau" is always nicer! [CENTER][ATTACH=full]1582218[/ATTACH][/CENTER] One detail that is seemingly unique to Marcus Aurelius & Commodus’ version of the captives-and-trophy: The two captives are seated on shields propped against the trophy, not seated on the ground (as described by RIC, and as on most other rulers’ reverses of this type). (Almost a gentle touch, in a perverse Roman Imperial sort of way.)[/QUOTE]
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