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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 8311591, member: 39084"]I agree with the implication in the second quote that all collectors, either consciously or subconsciously, take a coin's "eye appeal" into their evaluation when considering whether or not to purchase a coin for their collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also agree that U.S. coin collecting seems to be dominated by grade, and this is where I diverge from the hypothesis that ancient coin collecting differs from modern coin collecting only quantitatively (i.e., "grading" matters to ancient collectors as well but it's less emphasized) rather than qualitatively (i.e., grading of ancients is mostly a curiosity to true collectors rather than dabblers or speculators). My belief is that a U.S. coin collector would prefer a more highly graded coin over a lower-graded coin that might have more eye appeal to the collector, and this isn't true for most ancient coin collectors (as contrasted with speculators or dabblers).</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an example that illustrates why:</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider these three Sikyon staters and my personal observations:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1471282[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the most interesting aspects of this coin is the mythical Chimera beast -- with the body of a lion, a goat's head protruding from the body, and the tail ending in a serpent's head. For the ancient collector interested in this type of coin, these three typical specimens represent a choice that I believe no grading system can possibly encompass. </p><p><br /></p><p>The leftmost coin (#1) is bright, well struck, reasonably well centered, but the serpent's head is off the flan. If you want a full chimera, this isn't the coin for you since you'll have to describe to your friends that the lion's tail ends with a snake's head. But it's still a fine coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>The middle coin (#2) has all the features of the chimera fully on the flan, although it appears a little less bright, so it's a strong candidate.</p><p><br /></p><p>The rightmost coin's (#3) obverse actually shows better detail in the goat's head and serpent's head, and the obverse is slightly sharper than the middle coin, but the lion's left rear paw is off the flan, and it's slightly darker.</p><p><br /></p><p>So my thought is, how could a grading system possibly help you make a decision among these coins? Suppose coin 3 has a higher grade than coin 2, but you like brighter coins? Would it be wrong to choose coin 2? And if your budget can't stretch to a coin with the full serpent's tail on the flan, do you choose coin 1 since it's still a chimera and illustrates that mythical beast?</p><p><br /></p><p>How could coin grades <i>per se</i> have any relevance to helping a collector make a decision among these coins?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 8311591, member: 39084"]I agree with the implication in the second quote that all collectors, either consciously or subconsciously, take a coin's "eye appeal" into their evaluation when considering whether or not to purchase a coin for their collection. I also agree that U.S. coin collecting seems to be dominated by grade, and this is where I diverge from the hypothesis that ancient coin collecting differs from modern coin collecting only quantitatively (i.e., "grading" matters to ancient collectors as well but it's less emphasized) rather than qualitatively (i.e., grading of ancients is mostly a curiosity to true collectors rather than dabblers or speculators). My belief is that a U.S. coin collector would prefer a more highly graded coin over a lower-graded coin that might have more eye appeal to the collector, and this isn't true for most ancient coin collectors (as contrasted with speculators or dabblers). Here's an example that illustrates why: Consider these three Sikyon staters and my personal observations: [ATTACH=full]1471282[/ATTACH] One of the most interesting aspects of this coin is the mythical Chimera beast -- with the body of a lion, a goat's head protruding from the body, and the tail ending in a serpent's head. For the ancient collector interested in this type of coin, these three typical specimens represent a choice that I believe no grading system can possibly encompass. The leftmost coin (#1) is bright, well struck, reasonably well centered, but the serpent's head is off the flan. If you want a full chimera, this isn't the coin for you since you'll have to describe to your friends that the lion's tail ends with a snake's head. But it's still a fine coin. The middle coin (#2) has all the features of the chimera fully on the flan, although it appears a little less bright, so it's a strong candidate. The rightmost coin's (#3) obverse actually shows better detail in the goat's head and serpent's head, and the obverse is slightly sharper than the middle coin, but the lion's left rear paw is off the flan, and it's slightly darker. So my thought is, how could a grading system possibly help you make a decision among these coins? Suppose coin 3 has a higher grade than coin 2, but you like brighter coins? Would it be wrong to choose coin 2? And if your budget can't stretch to a coin with the full serpent's tail on the flan, do you choose coin 1 since it's still a chimera and illustrates that mythical beast? How could coin grades [I]per se[/I] have any relevance to helping a collector make a decision among these coins?[/QUOTE]
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