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<p>[QUOTE="JuicyFruit, post: 1170084, member: 30752"]Thank you LF. Oddly enough (to me at least) the tracking info got updated on Sunday. That makes no sense to me at all because I thought it was automatically updated when it gets scanned and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have gotten scanned on a Sunday. Anyhow, it says it was processed in Santa Clarita, CA or something like that, and on Sat it only said the USPS has been notified that tracking number blah blah has been created...you know that message. So now, it looks like the check is on the way.</p><p> </p><p>I feel simply awful about this whole situation but at no time do I think I was in the wrong. They used VERY VERY VERY stron arm tactics to get me to go away and thanks to the responses on here to my post, I stood my ground and it looks like I will be compensated. Now I am even getting emails from their partners, Bevery Hills Coin Club, threatening me and calling me names and stuff. The whole thing is really sad. A business should keep business replies to a minimum, detailing the information that the customer needs. Instead, I get HUGE earfuls about how GIANT their company is and about how great they are and what a pest I am. I am keeping it very light here. They said and threatened some pretty awful things. All because they wanted me to go away, and they didn't want to live up to their refund policy which was posted on their website when I made the purchase. The refund policy that they subsequenty changed after I called them out on it. It's so funny, if they were as large as they keep telling me they are in their emails, why would they care if I just sent them the 17 coins back and they sent me a refund. Great Southern Coin will give you 6 MONTHS and allow a refund with no questions asked. A consumer like me is SO APPRECIATIVE of such a policy. EVERYONE knows that grading is subjective, but Great Southern knows that a customer comes first, that the majority of customers are satisfied, and that if they're not satisfied, it is not worth their time or effort to argue with them. But that is actually all besides the point. Collectorsinternet.com actually had a refund policy that was posted on the internet saying they guarantee the coins to grade (obviously people on here have argued what that could actually mean, but legally speaking, courts don't allow such sneaky wording. If a sentence's general meaning sounds like it means that they guarantee that the coins they're advertising would generally meet such a standard, than thats what the sentence means.) If a coin couldn't even be in the same ballpark as a "Gem uncirculated 64-66", then why should a company be allowed to sell it as such? There is a whole division of of law contained in the U.C.C. that spells out these kind of things. </p><p> </p><p>In any case, for those of you who helped support me and made me feel like I have friends in the coin community out there and gave me advice and encouragement, I SINCERELY thank you. For everyone else who commented, I also thank you for your opinions.</p><p> </p><p>BTW the coin pics I posted above was one of the coins that I was sold that was supposed to be Gem Uncirculated 64-66. PCGS graded it AU 58. I thought that was a little low, but it seems the readers here agree. Who knows what the other grading companies would have graded it. I can't spend hundreds of dollars having them graded (unless we could all put together some sort of research project!!!!!! where we contribute to a fund that supports the sending in and grading of many different kinds of coins and show what a subjective standard it actually is. I know this has been done before, and I know PCGS was sued by the FCC in what, the early 90's or something, but a new study would be awesome. These grading companies have WAY too much of a stranglehold on the community. If a coin is so rare that there are only, say 15 out there, and the actual person grading it owns one, they are obviously going to grade it tougher than should be. That's obviously just one minor example of why the grading companies are too political and not honest enough.)</p><p> </p><p>I have another question which I should probably just start a new thread. I just went to an estate auction and bought a 1983 no S dime proof set. I bought it thinking I will keep it for many many years, which I very likely will, but my PCGS membership is only good for a year. So is it wise to send in the dime to be graded? It probably depends on what the dime would grade, but I could never tell the difference between a 65 or 66-70 coin. Also, if I was going to take the dime out and send it in, how would I even get it out of the case to do do? Thanks..[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JuicyFruit, post: 1170084, member: 30752"]Thank you LF. Oddly enough (to me at least) the tracking info got updated on Sunday. That makes no sense to me at all because I thought it was automatically updated when it gets scanned and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have gotten scanned on a Sunday. Anyhow, it says it was processed in Santa Clarita, CA or something like that, and on Sat it only said the USPS has been notified that tracking number blah blah has been created...you know that message. So now, it looks like the check is on the way. I feel simply awful about this whole situation but at no time do I think I was in the wrong. They used VERY VERY VERY stron arm tactics to get me to go away and thanks to the responses on here to my post, I stood my ground and it looks like I will be compensated. Now I am even getting emails from their partners, Bevery Hills Coin Club, threatening me and calling me names and stuff. The whole thing is really sad. A business should keep business replies to a minimum, detailing the information that the customer needs. Instead, I get HUGE earfuls about how GIANT their company is and about how great they are and what a pest I am. I am keeping it very light here. They said and threatened some pretty awful things. All because they wanted me to go away, and they didn't want to live up to their refund policy which was posted on their website when I made the purchase. The refund policy that they subsequenty changed after I called them out on it. It's so funny, if they were as large as they keep telling me they are in their emails, why would they care if I just sent them the 17 coins back and they sent me a refund. Great Southern Coin will give you 6 MONTHS and allow a refund with no questions asked. A consumer like me is SO APPRECIATIVE of such a policy. EVERYONE knows that grading is subjective, but Great Southern knows that a customer comes first, that the majority of customers are satisfied, and that if they're not satisfied, it is not worth their time or effort to argue with them. But that is actually all besides the point. Collectorsinternet.com actually had a refund policy that was posted on the internet saying they guarantee the coins to grade (obviously people on here have argued what that could actually mean, but legally speaking, courts don't allow such sneaky wording. If a sentence's general meaning sounds like it means that they guarantee that the coins they're advertising would generally meet such a standard, than thats what the sentence means.) If a coin couldn't even be in the same ballpark as a "Gem uncirculated 64-66", then why should a company be allowed to sell it as such? There is a whole division of of law contained in the U.C.C. that spells out these kind of things. In any case, for those of you who helped support me and made me feel like I have friends in the coin community out there and gave me advice and encouragement, I SINCERELY thank you. For everyone else who commented, I also thank you for your opinions. BTW the coin pics I posted above was one of the coins that I was sold that was supposed to be Gem Uncirculated 64-66. PCGS graded it AU 58. I thought that was a little low, but it seems the readers here agree. Who knows what the other grading companies would have graded it. I can't spend hundreds of dollars having them graded (unless we could all put together some sort of research project!!!!!! where we contribute to a fund that supports the sending in and grading of many different kinds of coins and show what a subjective standard it actually is. I know this has been done before, and I know PCGS was sued by the FCC in what, the early 90's or something, but a new study would be awesome. These grading companies have WAY too much of a stranglehold on the community. If a coin is so rare that there are only, say 15 out there, and the actual person grading it owns one, they are obviously going to grade it tougher than should be. That's obviously just one minor example of why the grading companies are too political and not honest enough.) I have another question which I should probably just start a new thread. I just went to an estate auction and bought a 1983 no S dime proof set. I bought it thinking I will keep it for many many years, which I very likely will, but my PCGS membership is only good for a year. So is it wise to send in the dime to be graded? It probably depends on what the dime would grade, but I could never tell the difference between a 65 or 66-70 coin. Also, if I was going to take the dime out and send it in, how would I even get it out of the case to do do? Thanks..[/QUOTE]
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