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It used to be punched into each die by hand... not each coin, just so you're aware.

As far as toning and cartwheel, well, if the coin is strongly lusterous, the cartwheel should be fine. If toning gets so dark to the point it's black-ish, that can cause damage to the coin and impact luster substantially.

 

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The "Die" is used to strike the coins. Sometime in the modern coins, ( I don't collect past 1980 usually) the mintmark was engraved ion the master hub rather than hand struck, but not then.

Jim

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Yes, the left wing when the coin is facing you.

 

Once again, thank you all for your help with this collectorsinternet thing.
I want to say that in the end, the gentleman at collectorsinternet ended up making me a very nice offer to compensate me for what I thought was unfair. They never admitted, and still don't think, that their refund policy allowed for me to recieve any refund after so long had elapsed. They nonetheless offered me one. I think it shows that they are a good place to shop. Just make sure you follow what they have posted on the internet about returns if you intend to return any. My case was different because the policy used to be different, due to a typo or something.
The coins, overall, were nice. PCGS was, IMO, pretty harsh on the grading. I do think ,however, if collectorsinternet top guy or girl or guys/girls would have checked the Morgans with a loupe, it would have been obvious that the one Morgan was cleaned. Even I can tell that now that I have a slight amount of knowledge and experience and now that I have the coins back. But, nevertheless, collectorsinternet did offer me enough money to make me feel like I got what I paid for now. I certainly WOULD NOT recommend anyone getting into a back and forth with them about grading and pricing. It was not easy and not unstressful.
All in all, even though they don't have a phone number and don't show pics of their coins, they do have pretty nice coins. Them not having a phone number or pictures is what added to the intrigue for me and what made me order from them in the first place. But I think they are saving so much money by not having a customer service rep available by phone that they expect you to understand and be VERY patient when it comes to buying from them. I would actually probably buy from them again, now that this is straightened out, but they don't want me to, and I can't blame them. But I wouldn't want to scare anyone away from buying from them. Just have more patience than me, which shouldn't be that hard lol (he answers hundred of emails a day)and you should be fine. I had a friend buy 16k in Morgans from them and everything turned out dandy. My problem with them was unique and has way too many twists and turns to go over it all again, but in the end they were very good to me. Again, thank you to the people on here that helped me find my way through this.

 

I'm happy that in the end, it all worked out to your satisfaction.

 

Thank you CoinMan. My case with them was probably a lot more about buyers remorse than anything. I think that most people would probably be satisfied with their merchandise if they tried them. Me, having very little experience, was expecting something probably more special than what should have been expected. I wouldn't hesitate ordering from them; just comply with their return policy if you don't want the coin or whatever. That's all I am going to say about collectorsinternet.com. They aren't going to hose you...if you order from them, they deliver. Interpreting the grade and quality of the coin should be more of a personal thing and less of a political venture. I ordered coins that were supposed to be of the rainbow toning type, and although they didn't make one specific companies grade, they were more or less what I ordered.

 

And, they probably don't believe they did anything most of the rest of the internet or mail order sellers are doing.

If you're going to buy sight unseen, make sure there's an unconditional return privilege and learn to grade yourself, so you can return them within their narrow time frame.

 

I'm having the same problem trying to find a reputable dealer for bulk foreign coins love the older ones not to worried about grade more so silver and date hunting. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have purchased 50 pounds from education coin company but silvers were far and few. Did find quite a few 1800' over all I just got the bug more. I have heard of real unsearched bank bags