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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cloudsweeper99, post: 74499, member: 3011&quot;]I wouldn&#039;t get too upset about the cleaned coins.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t make them worthless, just worth less.&nbsp; Even highly respected dealers such as Harlan J. Berk LTD sell cleaned coins on their website, listed as cleaned and sold at an appropriate discount.&nbsp; I own several coins I know have been cleaned [and most likely a few I don&#039;t know about].&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t affect their history or collectibility to me, just the resale value.&nbsp; Like you, I wish the grading services would just slab all coins sent to them, give a technical grade, and list them as cleaned, damaged, artificially toned or whatever they find.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s bad business practice to do anything else, and the use of the bodybags, in my opinion, is borderline fraud because you paid for a service you didn&#039;t receive.&nbsp; I don&#039;t care if they notifiy customers in advance that this is their policy.&nbsp; It just isn&#039;t right and it is their attempt to rig the market against cleaned coins instead of letting the market decide what their value should be.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also wonder if it would be worthwhile to get a second opinion on the gold coin.&nbsp; I&#039;m not sure whether &quot;counterfeit&quot; means someone changed the date or something else on the coin, or that it is a privately minted gold round, or that it isn&#039;t really gold.&nbsp; If it is real gold, it still might have about $55 worth of gold bullion in it even if it wasn&#039;t produced by the US Mint.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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