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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mikenoodle, post: 836885, member: 307&quot;]Duke,</p><p><br /></p><p>While I agree that this IS a good exercise and it does provide a learning tool for all of those involved, my larger point was that this thread was on graders and grading and has almost exclusively been using MS coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>MS coins are by far the hardest to grade from photos and my point was that the grades given will be a direct product of the photography.</p><p><br /></p><p>If we were to include circulated grades or narrow the possibilities to MS grades only, this would make things quite different because if you can tell the difference between an AU-58 and an MS-63 from a photograph, then I don&#039;t need anyone to tell me that you&#039;re a far better grader than me, because I will admit it openly.</p><p><br /></p><p>I pride myself on my grading ability and I welcome anyone who can teach me more. What I am finding a bit troubling is the range of grades being used. These grades are nearly impossible to tell from photographs and the accuracy of the grading will clearly be dependent in large part on the quality and <b>consistency</b> of the photography. It&#039;s like trying to find rust on an old car from 10 feet away, you can&#039;t be sure until you get a good look at it.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you notice, I have submitted a grade for each coin, and in fact, if you look in the archives, I try to participate in almost every guess the grade thread. It&#039;s fun! I welcome this type of educational thread, I just wish that it was more empirical.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you want to test our grading abilities that&#039;s good thing. Why don&#039;t you (bahabully) give a synopsis when you post the grades as to why it graded as it did, that will teach people more through this type of thread. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I see right now is bahabully letting people give their opinions and then he critiques our grading abilities according to what the TPG said. They get the coins in hand, we get the pictures. That&#039;s great, but tell me why it graded MS-XX. Educate me when you post results. Otherwise you&#039;re just picking birds off of a wire with a pellet gun. There&#039;s no risk on your part of being wrong, corrected, or having to take a public stand without knowing if you&#039;re right; something every participant has done.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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