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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 4870399, member: 56653"]Unfortunately I cannot add a reference for Southern France being tournois rather than parisis territory. I don't think there was a de jure separation as such. But if you look at the tentative of currency standardization started by Philippe II Augustus in the 1190s with the parisis being adopted by vassals and allies of Ile de France to the North and the parity with the deniers of Champagne and Sancerre (among others, the denier of Thibaut le Chansonnier of Champagne was the nominal equivalent of the royal parisis, I think that's something Spufford reiterates somewhere in his book) and continued after 1204/6 with the denier tournois, you can see actual patterns of preponderance. By the 1220s the denier tournois was not just a product of Saint Martin de Tours but a denomination per se. By 1250-1270 it was a mainly Occitan denomination, adopted by Louis IX brothers from Riom to Toulouse and Saint Remy via Montreuil-Bonnin and actually Avignon. Perhaps this polarization between North and South is what caused the 13th century denier parisis to be so scarce.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 4870399, member: 56653"]Unfortunately I cannot add a reference for Southern France being tournois rather than parisis territory. I don't think there was a de jure separation as such. But if you look at the tentative of currency standardization started by Philippe II Augustus in the 1190s with the parisis being adopted by vassals and allies of Ile de France to the North and the parity with the deniers of Champagne and Sancerre (among others, the denier of Thibaut le Chansonnier of Champagne was the nominal equivalent of the royal parisis, I think that's something Spufford reiterates somewhere in his book) and continued after 1204/6 with the denier tournois, you can see actual patterns of preponderance. By the 1220s the denier tournois was not just a product of Saint Martin de Tours but a denomination per se. By 1250-1270 it was a mainly Occitan denomination, adopted by Louis IX brothers from Riom to Toulouse and Saint Remy via Montreuil-Bonnin and actually Avignon. Perhaps this polarization between North and South is what caused the 13th century denier parisis to be so scarce.[/QUOTE]
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