Coins with the busts of Previous Emperors

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  1. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Here's an interesting newish coin...

    It's interesting because it's a first issue with a bust with the characteristics of the previous (although briefly in-place) Gallic emperor Marius rather than the new emperor Victorinus.

    It's also cool because it was a coin from the Rockbourne hoard, found with 7707 coins in a clay jar in the Rockbourne villa in Hampshire England in 1967.

    VictorinusCologneRIC41-126.JPG
    Victorinus
    Colonia Agrippinensis (Cologne) mint. 1st emission, AD 269.
    Ob: IMP C PI VICTORINVS AVG Radiate and cuirassed bust right, with the features of Marius
    R: AEQVITAS AVG Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopia.
    RIC V 41 and 126; Mairat 309; AGK 1b.

    Seller's information and photos:
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    Let see your coins of the Rockbourne Hoard or other coins with the features of the previous emperors!
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Don't really have any that come to mind. Although I'm thinking some folks probably have a brand-new Trajan with the features of Nerva.
     
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  4. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Happy to have an excuse to post this one again. :)

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    Trajan, AR Denarius. Rome, 98-99 A.D., (17mm, 3.22g), RIC 30
    Obv: IMP NERVA CAES TRAIAN AVG GERM P M., Laureate head of Trajan (with Nerva-like features) right./ Rev: TR P COS II PP., Pax seated left on throne, holding branch and caduceus.
     
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  5. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    That's a great coin @Shea19 ! I have one similar coin of Trajan with a bust that somewhat resembles Nerva... these were probably minted at about the same time huh? 98-99 AD

    TrajanRIC390.JPG
    RIC 390

    I can think of others with the characteristics of previous emperors... I'll have to dig them out later... early Maximinus, Gordian, Aurelian... to name a few.
     
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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    That's right!

    Some early issues of Maximinus Thrax resembled Severus Alexander. I don't have one but I've seen examples. That was before they found out he had acromegaly, a condition caused by excessive human growth hormone leading to a jutting jawline, large features, and enormous size. Of course, the ancients didn't know this but modern medicine has figured this out. If he had been born today Maximinus would be playing center on an NBA team.

     
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  7. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Orange Julius what are you doing with my cat?
     
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  8. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Haha... I’m holding it hostage for a ransom of your rare usurper coins!
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member


    My site on Maximinus Thrax
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/Maximinus/Maximinus.html
    begins with an example of his early portrait and a similar portrait of Severus Alexander:
    MaximinusVA_6418.jpg
    SevAlexSP_6407.jpg

    Note that even the obverse legend has the same format:
    IMP <name> PIVS AVG
    For much more about the coins of Maximinus, see the site.
     
  10. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    That's a beautiful Victorinus/Marius!

    I do have one, not much to look at but it was mixed in an inexpensive job lot
    20191114_091840.jpg

    (I still need to take pics of it)

    What is interesting is that Victorinus also used a very Postumus-like bust, giving some credence to the Historia Augusta's claim that Marius was just a blip on the radar who was gone as fast as he came. I sold this one last year; I regret parting with it.
    20190115_085239.jpg

    Anyway, I do have some others

    Severus Alexander-esque Maximinus (these are a lot scarcer than I initially thought)
    Maximinus denarius salus early.jpg

    Gordian with a Balbinus-like face
    Gordian iii early providentia avg.jpg Balbinus antoninianus concordia avgg.jpg

    Are we *sure* this isn't Gordian III in drag?
    Otacilia Severa pudicitia.jpg

    This first year Gallienus looks more like Victorinus
    Gallienus CONCORDIA AVGG clasped hands early issue.jpg

    Ditto with this one, although maybe it's just from an unusual mint?
    Gallienus virtus avgg.jpg

    Early Aurelian is barely distinguishable from Claudius II
    Aurelian Concordia.jpg
    Here is an interesting Tetricus that I think may be the result of confusion about what he looked like? I dont think this one is barbarous.
    Tetricus I spes unknown mint.jpg
     
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