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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24832106, member: 26430"]No harm in that! I don't think I saw it the first time around, so it's new to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>I love the shield on the 2nd Philip from Nisibis!</p><p><br /></p><p>There don't seem to be many Greek (pre-Roman) temple coins, do there? The Romans sure loved their temple coins, though!</p><p><br /></p><p>(Incidentally, I just noticed all 5 coins I've posted are from the reign of Philip I -- interesting! I'd love to post <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/8177" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/8177" rel="nofollow">my Elagabalus from Laodicea</a> [the RPC 8177 "digital plate coin"], but don't want to break the mono-regnal run!)</p><p><br /></p><p><i>If I could only keep one...</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>I guess probably this Ludi Saeculares Antoninianus (Sear RCV 8963):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590242[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In general, though, my favorite Roman Provincial Temple coins are the Provincial "Neokorate" types.</p><p><br /></p><p>Neokoros was a special, privileged status for a city, and they always advertised it on their coins, usually with an image of a temple (one of the requirements for Neokoroi was a temple to the Imperial Cult; the title means "temple-bearer").</p><blockquote><p><font size="4">[See Barbara Burrell's (2004) excellent book on the subject, </font><i><font size="4">Neokoroi: Greek Cities and Roman Emperors</font></i><font size="4">. A good chunk is </font><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Neokoroi/AaaClrSUtHsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Neokoroi/AaaClrSUtHsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover" rel="nofollow"><font size="4">available free on the Google Books preview</font></a><font size="4">, and well worth it. Also some relevant ANS Long Tables, recorded & available on Youtube or ANS website: <a href="https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-156-nicaea-in-bithynia-an-atypical-provincial-mint-in-the-roman-east/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-156-nicaea-in-bithynia-an-atypical-provincial-mint-in-the-roman-east/" rel="nofollow">156</a>, <a href="https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-152-coining-a-colonial-identity-civic-coins-and-colonies-in-the-roman-provinces/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-152-coining-a-colonial-identity-civic-coins-and-colonies-in-the-roman-provinces/" rel="nofollow">152</a>, probably others.]</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>This temple in Thessaloniki was a temple to Kaberois, probably located in the city's sacred quarter (where excavations have been underway for generations). I think it's likely they were also practicing "temple-sharing" and the same physical structure may have served the Imperial Cult, too. This coin celebrates the second local Kabeiric Pythian Games (another requirement for the status):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590243[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Macedon, Thessalonica. <b>Philip II (Caesar)</b> AE Tetrassarion</b> (26.5mm, 11.23g, 7h), Second Pythian Games issue, struck circa 246 CE.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obv</b>: · ΜΑΡ · ΙΟΥΛΙΟϹ · ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ · ΚƐ (·) – <i>Mar(cus) Julius Philippus Ca(esar)</i>. Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Philip II facing right, seen from rear.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Rev</b>: ΘƐϹϹΑΛΟΝΙΚƐΩΝ ΝƐΩ / ·ΠΥΘΙΑΔΙ· / ·Β· – <i>Of the Thessalonians, Neo(korate) / Pythian Games / #2</i>. Temple (of Kabeiros?) with four side columns, on podium, seen in 3/4 perspective to right.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Ref</b>: RPC VIII (Temp.) 69113, ex. 6 (this coin) <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/69113" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/69113" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a>; Touratsoglou (Thessaloniki, 1988) 62 (Philip II); Varbanov (vol III, 2007) 4740; Moushmov –. </font></p><p><font size="4"><b>See also</b>: Jean Hourmouziadis “Virtual Collection” SHH v3964 (this coin) <a href="http://hourmo.eu/32_Macedonia/Thessalonika/Index_Thessalonika.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://hourmo.eu/32_Macedonia/Thessalonika/Index_Thessalonika.html" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a>.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Provenance</b>: Ex-Dix, Noonan, Webb A7 (17 Mar 2009), Lot 1235; Pegasi MBS 22 (20 Apr 2010), Lot 383 (unsold, and numerous later Pegasi/VAuctions sales through 2020); CNG e-Auction 489 (7 Apr 2021), Lot 272 <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7963587" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7963587" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a></font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Cities could also be awarded "double Neokoros" status (and rarely even triple or quadruple!) ... How to illustrate your twice-Neokorate status?</p><p><br /></p><p>With TWO temples, of course!! One in each of Tyche's hands:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590244[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Bithynia, Nicomedia. Otacilia AE Tetrassarion</b> (27mm, 11.21g), 244-249.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obv</b>: Μ ΩΤΑΚΙΛΑΙΑ CΕΥΗΡΑ ΑΥ. Diademed and draped bust of Otacilia Severa, r.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Rev</b>: ΝΙΚΟΜΗΔƐ<u>ΩΝ</u> ΔΙϹ ΝƐΩΚΟΡΩΝ (final N retrograde in l. field...<i>but why?!</i>). Tyche standing l., holding a small temple model with six columns in each hand.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Ref</b>: <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/20007" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/20007" rel="nofollow">RPC VIII (Temp) 20005</a>, ex. 5 (this coin) = Lindgren & Kovacs (1985), 177 (this coin).</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Prov</b>: Ex H.C. Lindgren (1914-2005) Collection = CNG EA 518, 15 June 2022, lot 917 (part of) = Antioch Associates Buy-or-Bid Sale Number 15 (1 Jun 1998), Lot 100.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>I recently added a few that I may not have posted yet:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590239[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Syria, Cyrrhus. Philip I AE</b> (29mm, 11.91g, 7h), 244-249.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obv</b>: ΑΥΤΟΚ Κ Μ ΙΟΥΛΙ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ ϹƐΒ. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Philip I, r., seen from rear.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Rev</b>: ΔΙΟϹ Κ(Α)ΤƐΒΑΤΟΥ ΚΥΡΗϹΤΩΝ. Temple with six columns enclosing Zeus seated facing, holding sceptre and thunderbolt, eagle at feet, garlands or curtains above; above temple, bull (?) leaping r.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Ref</b>: <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/7845" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/7845" rel="nofollow">RPC VIII (Temp) 7845</a>.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Prov</b>: CNG EA 548 (18 Oct 2023) lot 1115 (part of), ex M. Slavin coll., ex Matt Geary (Praetorian Coins) 23 Jun 1999.</font></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>There's been some question whether, below, we're seeing a temple upon a rocky hill, or seeing some kind of foreground in perspective. It's an interesting idea, but I figure it's meant to be a temple on a hill. Either way, the engraver really messed up the lines on this die (compounded by the countermark, which also unfortunately obliterated Phil. Jr.'s face!):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1590241[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><font size="4"><b>Syria, Zeugma. Philip II AE</b> (29mm, 16.24g, 6h), 247-249.</font></p><p><b><font size="4">Obv</font></b><font size="4">: ΑΥΤΟΚ Κ Μ ΙΟΥΛΙ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ ϹΕΒ. Laureate, draped & cuirassed bust r., seen from rear.</font></p><p><b><font size="4">Rev</font></b><font size="4">: ΖΕΥΓΜΑΤΕΩΝ. Temple w/ four columns containing seated figure facing, on rocky hilltop w/ buildings at the base & steps or colonnades on either side; below, Capricorn left.</font></p><p><b><font size="4">Ref</font></b><font size="4">: </font><a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/8195" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/8195" rel="nofollow"><font size="4">RPC VIII (Temp) 8195</font></a><font size="4">; SGIC 4142 var.</font></p><p><b><font size="4">Prov</font></b><font size="4">: C. Jackson-Jacobs coll. = CNG EA 548 (18 Oct 2023) lot 1115 (part of), ex M. Slavin coll., acq. 23 Jun 2004.</font></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 24832106, member: 26430"]No harm in that! I don't think I saw it the first time around, so it's new to me. I love the shield on the 2nd Philip from Nisibis! There don't seem to be many Greek (pre-Roman) temple coins, do there? The Romans sure loved their temple coins, though! (Incidentally, I just noticed all 5 coins I've posted are from the reign of Philip I -- interesting! I'd love to post [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/8177']my Elagabalus from Laodicea[/URL] [the RPC 8177 "digital plate coin"], but don't want to break the mono-regnal run!) [I]If I could only keep one... [/I] I guess probably this Ludi Saeculares Antoninianus (Sear RCV 8963): [ATTACH=full]1590242[/ATTACH] In general, though, my favorite Roman Provincial Temple coins are the Provincial "Neokorate" types. Neokoros was a special, privileged status for a city, and they always advertised it on their coins, usually with an image of a temple (one of the requirements for Neokoroi was a temple to the Imperial Cult; the title means "temple-bearer"). [INDENT][SIZE=4][See Barbara Burrell's (2004) excellent book on the subject, [/SIZE][I][SIZE=4]Neokoroi: Greek Cities and Roman Emperors[/SIZE][/I][SIZE=4]. A good chunk is [/SIZE][URL='https://www.google.com/books/edition/Neokoroi/AaaClrSUtHsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover'][SIZE=4]available free on the Google Books preview[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=4], and well worth it. Also some relevant ANS Long Tables, recorded & available on Youtube or ANS website: [URL='https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-156-nicaea-in-bithynia-an-atypical-provincial-mint-in-the-roman-east/']156[/URL], [URL='https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/long-table-152-coining-a-colonial-identity-civic-coins-and-colonies-in-the-roman-provinces/']152[/URL], probably others.][/SIZE][/INDENT] This temple in Thessaloniki was a temple to Kaberois, probably located in the city's sacred quarter (where excavations have been underway for generations). I think it's likely they were also practicing "temple-sharing" and the same physical structure may have served the Imperial Cult, too. This coin celebrates the second local Kabeiric Pythian Games (another requirement for the status): [ATTACH=full]1590243[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Macedon, Thessalonica. [B]Philip II (Caesar)[/B] AE Tetrassarion[/B] (26.5mm, 11.23g, 7h), Second Pythian Games issue, struck circa 246 CE. [B]Obv[/B]: · ΜΑΡ · ΙΟΥΛΙΟϹ · ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ · ΚƐ (·) – [I]Mar(cus) Julius Philippus Ca(esar)[/I]. Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Philip II facing right, seen from rear. [B]Rev[/B]: ΘƐϹϹΑΛΟΝΙΚƐΩΝ ΝƐΩ / ·ΠΥΘΙΑΔΙ· / ·Β· – [I]Of the Thessalonians, Neo(korate) / Pythian Games / #2[/I]. Temple (of Kabeiros?) with four side columns, on podium, seen in 3/4 perspective to right. [B]Ref[/B]: RPC VIII (Temp.) 69113, ex. 6 (this coin) [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/69113'][LINK][/URL]; Touratsoglou (Thessaloniki, 1988) 62 (Philip II); Varbanov (vol III, 2007) 4740; Moushmov –. [B]See also[/B]: Jean Hourmouziadis “Virtual Collection” SHH v3964 (this coin) [URL='http://hourmo.eu/32_Macedonia/Thessalonika/Index_Thessalonika.html'][LINK][/URL]. [B]Provenance[/B]: Ex-Dix, Noonan, Webb A7 (17 Mar 2009), Lot 1235; Pegasi MBS 22 (20 Apr 2010), Lot 383 (unsold, and numerous later Pegasi/VAuctions sales through 2020); CNG e-Auction 489 (7 Apr 2021), Lot 272 [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7963587'][LINK][/URL][/SIZE][/INDENT] Cities could also be awarded "double Neokoros" status (and rarely even triple or quadruple!) ... How to illustrate your twice-Neokorate status? With TWO temples, of course!! One in each of Tyche's hands: [ATTACH=full]1590244[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Bithynia, Nicomedia. Otacilia AE Tetrassarion[/B] (27mm, 11.21g), 244-249. [B]Obv[/B]: Μ ΩΤΑΚΙΛΑΙΑ CΕΥΗΡΑ ΑΥ. Diademed and draped bust of Otacilia Severa, r. [B]Rev[/B]: ΝΙΚΟΜΗΔƐ[U]ΩΝ[/U] ΔΙϹ ΝƐΩΚΟΡΩΝ (final N retrograde in l. field...[I]but why?![/I]). Tyche standing l., holding a small temple model with six columns in each hand. [B]Ref[/B]: [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/20007']RPC VIII (Temp) 20005[/URL], ex. 5 (this coin) = Lindgren & Kovacs (1985), 177 (this coin). [B]Prov[/B]: Ex H.C. Lindgren (1914-2005) Collection = CNG EA 518, 15 June 2022, lot 917 (part of) = Antioch Associates Buy-or-Bid Sale Number 15 (1 Jun 1998), Lot 100.[/SIZE][/INDENT] I recently added a few that I may not have posted yet: [ATTACH=full]1590239[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Syria, Cyrrhus. Philip I AE[/B] (29mm, 11.91g, 7h), 244-249. [B]Obv[/B]: ΑΥΤΟΚ Κ Μ ΙΟΥΛΙ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ ϹƐΒ. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Philip I, r., seen from rear. [B]Rev[/B]: ΔΙΟϹ Κ(Α)ΤƐΒΑΤΟΥ ΚΥΡΗϹΤΩΝ. Temple with six columns enclosing Zeus seated facing, holding sceptre and thunderbolt, eagle at feet, garlands or curtains above; above temple, bull (?) leaping r. [B]Ref[/B]: [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/7845']RPC VIII (Temp) 7845[/URL]. [B]Prov[/B]: CNG EA 548 (18 Oct 2023) lot 1115 (part of), ex M. Slavin coll., ex Matt Geary (Praetorian Coins) 23 Jun 1999.[/SIZE][/INDENT] There's been some question whether, below, we're seeing a temple upon a rocky hill, or seeing some kind of foreground in perspective. It's an interesting idea, but I figure it's meant to be a temple on a hill. Either way, the engraver really messed up the lines on this die (compounded by the countermark, which also unfortunately obliterated Phil. Jr.'s face!): [ATTACH=full]1590241[/ATTACH] [INDENT][SIZE=4][B]Syria, Zeugma. Philip II AE[/B] (29mm, 16.24g, 6h), 247-249.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Obv[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4]: ΑΥΤΟΚ Κ Μ ΙΟΥΛΙ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ ϹΕΒ. Laureate, draped & cuirassed bust r., seen from rear.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Rev[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4]: ΖΕΥΓΜΑΤΕΩΝ. Temple w/ four columns containing seated figure facing, on rocky hilltop w/ buildings at the base & steps or colonnades on either side; below, Capricorn left.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Ref[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4]: [/SIZE][URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/8195'][SIZE=4]RPC VIII (Temp) 8195[/SIZE][/URL][SIZE=4]; SGIC 4142 var.[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=4]Prov[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=4]: C. Jackson-Jacobs coll. = CNG EA 548 (18 Oct 2023) lot 1115 (part of), ex M. Slavin coll., acq. 23 Jun 2004.[/SIZE][/INDENT][/QUOTE]
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