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<p>[QUOTE="otlichnik, post: 5308543, member: 109731"]Doug,</p><p><br /></p><p>There are two steps to the detailed identification of Chinese cash.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorting by minor details - the flyspecks you speak of - has been undertaken, especially by Japanese numismatists, since the 17th century. You are right though that without further work it is just a catalogue of what we see - a blank taxonomy.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, that can then be compared to archaeological reports and even existing records to understand what the variety means. The work is just starting in Chinese numismatics and will hopefully continue for a long time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sadly though this is limited for now. For example, Japanese authors have been able to identify copies made in Japan by style. Thierry, and Doo, have done a great start on the Kia Yuan Tong Bao using archaeological records as have Fishman & Gratzer for Wu Zhu. Though both are only starts.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hartill was able to dig up the actual mint records of the Qing, after decades of work, and so his RNS/Spink "Qing Cash" explains what all the variety means. An historical work very different from his wider guidebooks.</p><p><br /></p><p>In terms of gaining a much richer and deeper understanding of Chinese coinage you have two options:</p><p><br /></p><p>Francois Thierry, Monnaies de la Chine ancienne (Les): Des origines à la fin de l'Empire, 2017, (if you read French).</p><p><br /></p><p>Ping Xinwei (aka Peng Hsin-wei). A Monetary History of China, Volumes One and Two (Zhongguo Huobi Shi). In English and can be found online as it was published by Western Washington University.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both are very detailed, several hundred page studies that combine historical records, archaeological evidence and numismatic data from the coins themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>SC[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="otlichnik, post: 5308543, member: 109731"]Doug, There are two steps to the detailed identification of Chinese cash. Sorting by minor details - the flyspecks you speak of - has been undertaken, especially by Japanese numismatists, since the 17th century. You are right though that without further work it is just a catalogue of what we see - a blank taxonomy. However, that can then be compared to archaeological reports and even existing records to understand what the variety means. The work is just starting in Chinese numismatics and will hopefully continue for a long time. Sadly though this is limited for now. For example, Japanese authors have been able to identify copies made in Japan by style. Thierry, and Doo, have done a great start on the Kia Yuan Tong Bao using archaeological records as have Fishman & Gratzer for Wu Zhu. Though both are only starts. Hartill was able to dig up the actual mint records of the Qing, after decades of work, and so his RNS/Spink "Qing Cash" explains what all the variety means. An historical work very different from his wider guidebooks. In terms of gaining a much richer and deeper understanding of Chinese coinage you have two options: Francois Thierry, Monnaies de la Chine ancienne (Les): Des origines à la fin de l'Empire, 2017, (if you read French). Ping Xinwei (aka Peng Hsin-wei). A Monetary History of China, Volumes One and Two (Zhongguo Huobi Shi). In English and can be found online as it was published by Western Washington University. Both are very detailed, several hundred page studies that combine historical records, archaeological evidence and numismatic data from the coins themselves. SC[/QUOTE]
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