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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Gallienus, post: 3201411, member: 42034&quot;]Very nice 1810, I recall that these were the 1st year of issue, although patterns were struck dated 1809 in both bronze and silver.&nbsp; Brazilians are very adept at determining the understrike of these although yours appears to be overstruck on a Mexican 8R of Charles 4th, issued between 1791 and 1808.&nbsp; The date would be on the opposite end of the coin as where the &quot;18&quot; from 1810 appears.&nbsp; Here&#039;s what the host coin may have been.&nbsp; You can see where the 3 leaves line up at the top of his head and also the big letters &quot;DE&quot; from DEI GRATIA&nbsp; below.</p><p><br /></p><p>However I&#039;m not an authentic Brazilian; I just lived in Brazil for a few years.&nbsp; You&#039;d need to find one to tell you about this definitively.</p><p><img src="https://coinsandhistory.com/pix_shared/pix_cointalk/Mex_8R_1797_obv_600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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