Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Eduard, Dec 28, 2017.
@Eduard, I came across this old post about your 1768 Santiago Columnario. Do you still have it?
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@jgenn, to answer your question - I do not presently own this coin.
In fact, after I bough it at the HA auction, I arranged for it to be sent to NGC for verification. NGC deemed it to be a counterfeit and this was confirmed by a leading expert on Spanish Colonial coinage. HA agreed to take it back. A disapointing experience, but I am glad I had the intuition to have it verified for authenticity.
Glad you got your money back, and good decision to have it verified by others.
This medal looks way better in hand, it has mint luster and nice patina.
Similar to Fon(robert) 9453.
Thanks for doing research, he had two of these medals on his collection. I have been looking that nowadays people care more about medals than years before. I was offered a mint state Charles IV Huancavelica Proclamation medal last year, when I went back to purchase, it was already sold.
There have been probably a couple of auctions of this medal registered, but they go as far back as April of 1899 (Weyl - Berlin, Lot 2460). It is a very rare medal, and only a handful of specimens are known. Two of these medals came up for auction around 2008 in Colombia as part of the Alberto Lozano Collection (One in silver the other in a white metal alloy). The Lozano Collection was deemed back then as one of the best Bolivar related medal collections ever assembled in Colombia. Ebay auctioned a white metal one probably some 10-12 years ago.
Indeed, the decree only speaks of a platinum specimen struck and presented for Bolivar (rumored to be in either Chile or in California) and some struck in silver. However, I have direct knowledge of strikes of this medal in Bronze, and a white metal (tin and silver alloy) and a piedfort in silver as well. All of these medals are legit... very possibly also struck as part of the initial lot along with the silver ones.
The dies for this medal are in fact part of the inventories of the Colombian National Museum. Unfortunately, not everyone who works there is knowledgeable of this fact.
I visited the National Museum last month and indeed, if they have one of this medals in inventory it is not exhibited.
I'll be glad to share more information on this if you need it.
Man that is a sweet find...I have one but nothing like that two thumbs up
AV 1/2 Escudo 1825-NG (Neuva Guatamala Mint)
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