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<p>[QUOTE="ColonialDave, post: 1959198, member: 56493"]Here are some sources that I have found in my online research which mention Hessian coins that were found at various Colonial Revolutionary War sites:</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Source 1:</b> <a href="http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibits/search?words=hessian%20coin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibits/search?words=hessian%20coin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibits/search?words=hessian coin</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>No Image Available of the coins.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>stamped: (6), on front of coin: <b>"I/HELLER/SCHEID/.......TZ"</b> (Hessian coin) stamped:</p><p>(7), on front of coin: <b>"/SCHEID"</b> (Hessian coin)</p><p><br /></p><p>"These coins were excavated by the Field Exploration Committee at British Revolutionary War sites in Washington Heights. Five of the Spanish coins were found on Fort Washington Avenue, near the garrison camp of Fort Washington at 181st Street and Bennett Avenue. Three British and on Hessian coin were found in the military camp at 201st Street and 9th Avenue. <b>Spanish coins were often used to pay Hessian soldiers</b>."</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Since no photos are available of the coins mentioned above, my guess is the source 1 coin is a similar to this one at:</i></p><p><i><a href="http://www.poinsignon-numismatique.com/coins_r5/germany-before-1870_c25/hesse-kassel_p711/hesse-cassel-guillaume-viii-1751-1760-1-heller-1755_article_71230.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.poinsignon-numismatique.com/coins_r5/germany-before-1870_c25/hesse-kassel_p711/hesse-cassel-guillaume-viii-1751-1760-1-heller-1755_article_71230.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.poinsignon-numismatique.com/coins_r5/germany-before-1870_c25/hesse-kassel_p711/hesse-cassel-guillaume-viii-1751-1760-1-heller-1755_article_71230.html</a></i></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345218[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]345217[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Source 2:</b> <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ujAbAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=text" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ujAbAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=text" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=ujAbAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=text</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Documents of the Assembly of the State of New York, Volume 21</p><p>By New York (State). Legislature. Assembly</p><p><br /></p><p><i>This book provides descriptions of artifacts found in the vicinity of the garrison of Fort Washington on Manhattan Island, New York. </i></p><p><br /></p><p><i>On Page 365:</i></p><p>"An Italian workman usually places an -extravagant value on finds of coins, and is secretive as to what he has found. Probably he assumes that the law relating to such discoveries is the same here as in his native country, and that the object may be taken from him if its discovery becomes known. Thus some interesting coins found at 176th Street were lost to sight. A local workingman once showed an unusual Saxon coin found "somewhere near 168th Street" which was almost ruined in character by being earned about in his pocket with other coins. It was inscribed <b>" 12 Heller. Iteichstadt, Sach. B. V." with the date on reverse of 1767."</b></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Since no photos are available of the coin mentioned above, my guess is the 1767 12 Heller mentioned is from the German state of Aachen</i> <i>(the Sach. B. V. may have been a misread of the ACHEN in the fifth line) and</i> <i>may be similar to this one at: <a href="http://www.aachen-muenzen.com/typen-aachener-m%C3%BCnzen/heller/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.aachen-muenzen.com/typen-aachener-m%C3%BCnzen/heller/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aachen-muenzen.com/typen-aachener-münzen/heller/</a></i></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345223[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]345221[/ATTACH]</p><p><i>-------------------------------------------------------------</i></p><p><i>On page 422:</i></p><p>"We next found a button of the 35th Regiment lying close to part of a sword-blade. The objects connected with these two regiments indicated the use of this part of the camp deposit or "dump" during the years 1777 and 1778. One little object which was at first supposed to be a button turned out on close examination to be a coin of one of the German States, which bore the words <b>"Fennig Scheidemunze,"</b> the little coin being pierced with a hole, and probably having been used as a charm by some Hessian soldier, or perhaps a keepsake of the girl he left behind him in far Cassel."</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Since no photos are available of the coin mentioned above, my guess is the Fennig mentioned above is from the German state of Brunswick Wolfenbuttel, as Hesse Cassel did not have a Pfenning denomination</i> (Fennig Scheidemunze may be a misread of Pfenning Scheide Muntz) <i>and</i> <i>might be similar to this one at:</i></p><p><a href="http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/moneta_numismatic_services/104/product/germany_brunswickwolfenbuttel_1749_1_pfennig_vf/381773/Default.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/moneta_numismatic_services/104/product/germany_brunswickwolfenbuttel_1749_1_pfennig_vf/381773/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/moneta_numismatic_services/104/product/germany_brunswickwolfenbuttel_1749_1_pfennig_vf/381773/Default.aspx</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345235[/ATTACH]--------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><i>On Page 483:</i></p><p>"Several English coins of the period of William III, of George II and of George III, were found near the two cedar trees at the extreme end of the Point. In the river bank a few yards north of these two trees, the complete bowl of a white clay pipe, bearing an English crown and other ornamentation, was unearthed, and at the same spot <b>was found a Hessian coin known as a Heller</b>, near a large Spanish silver coin, while a smaller Spanish silver piece was found about sixty yards to the north. Near the little house once occupied by Mrs. Rowley, a cannon ball was dug out of the river bank."</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Source 3:</b> <a href="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/318232-1742-4-heller.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/318232-1742-4-heller.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/318232-1742-4-heller.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>A <b>1742 4 Heller</b> of Hesse Cassel found at an undisclosed Colonial site.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]345215[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]345216[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ColonialDave, post: 1959198, member: 56493"]Here are some sources that I have found in my online research which mention Hessian coins that were found at various Colonial Revolutionary War sites: [B] Source 1:[/B] [URL='http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibits/search?words=hessian%20coin']http://www.nyhistory.org/exhibits/search?words=hessian coin[/URL] [I]No Image Available of the coins.[/I] stamped: (6), on front of coin: [B]"I/HELLER/SCHEID/.......TZ"[/B] (Hessian coin) stamped: (7), on front of coin: [B]"/SCHEID"[/B] (Hessian coin) "These coins were excavated by the Field Exploration Committee at British Revolutionary War sites in Washington Heights. Five of the Spanish coins were found on Fort Washington Avenue, near the garrison camp of Fort Washington at 181st Street and Bennett Avenue. Three British and on Hessian coin were found in the military camp at 201st Street and 9th Avenue. [B]Spanish coins were often used to pay Hessian soldiers[/B]." [I]Since no photos are available of the coins mentioned above, my guess is the source 1 coin is a similar to this one at: [url]http://www.poinsignon-numismatique.com/coins_r5/germany-before-1870_c25/hesse-kassel_p711/hesse-cassel-guillaume-viii-1751-1760-1-heller-1755_article_71230.html[/url][/I] [ATTACH=full]345218[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]345217[/ATTACH] [B]Source 2:[/B] [url]http://books.google.com/books?id=ujAbAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=text[/url] Documents of the Assembly of the State of New York, Volume 21 By New York (State). Legislature. Assembly [I]This book provides descriptions of artifacts found in the vicinity of the garrison of Fort Washington on Manhattan Island, New York. [/I] [I]On Page 365:[/I] "An Italian workman usually places an -extravagant value on finds of coins, and is secretive as to what he has found. Probably he assumes that the law relating to such discoveries is the same here as in his native country, and that the object may be taken from him if its discovery becomes known. Thus some interesting coins found at 176th Street were lost to sight. A local workingman once showed an unusual Saxon coin found "somewhere near 168th Street" which was almost ruined in character by being earned about in his pocket with other coins. It was inscribed [B]" 12 Heller. Iteichstadt, Sach. B. V." with the date on reverse of 1767."[/B] [I]Since no photos are available of the coin mentioned above, my guess is the 1767 12 Heller mentioned is from the German state of Aachen[/I] [I](the Sach. B. V. may have been a misread of the ACHEN in the fifth line) and[/I] [I]may be similar to this one at: [URL='http://www.aachen-muenzen.com/typen-aachener-m%C3%BCnzen/heller/']http://www.aachen-muenzen.com/typen-aachener-münzen/heller/[/URL][/I] [ATTACH=full]345223[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]345221[/ATTACH] [I]------------------------------------------------------------- On page 422:[/I] "We next found a button of the 35th Regiment lying close to part of a sword-blade. The objects connected with these two regiments indicated the use of this part of the camp deposit or "dump" during the years 1777 and 1778. One little object which was at first supposed to be a button turned out on close examination to be a coin of one of the German States, which bore the words [B]"Fennig Scheidemunze,"[/B] the little coin being pierced with a hole, and probably having been used as a charm by some Hessian soldier, or perhaps a keepsake of the girl he left behind him in far Cassel." [I]Since no photos are available of the coin mentioned above, my guess is the Fennig mentioned above is from the German state of Brunswick Wolfenbuttel, as Hesse Cassel did not have a Pfenning denomination[/I] (Fennig Scheidemunze may be a misread of Pfenning Scheide Muntz) [I]and[/I] [I]might be similar to this one at:[/I] [url]http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/moneta_numismatic_services/104/product/germany_brunswickwolfenbuttel_1749_1_pfennig_vf/381773/Default.aspx[/url] [ATTACH=full]345235[/ATTACH]-------------------------------------------------------------------- [I]On Page 483:[/I] "Several English coins of the period of William III, of George II and of George III, were found near the two cedar trees at the extreme end of the Point. In the river bank a few yards north of these two trees, the complete bowl of a white clay pipe, bearing an English crown and other ornamentation, was unearthed, and at the same spot [B]was found a Hessian coin known as a Heller[/B], near a large Spanish silver coin, while a smaller Spanish silver piece was found about sixty yards to the north. Near the little house once occupied by Mrs. Rowley, a cannon ball was dug out of the river bank." [B]Source 3:[/B] [url]http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/318232-1742-4-heller.html[/url] [I]A [B]1742 4 Heller[/B] of Hesse Cassel found at an undisclosed Colonial site.[/I] [ATTACH=full]345215[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]345216[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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