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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4602170, member: 19463"]This statement deserves expansion. The tetrarchy was formed when Constantius and Galerius were made Caesares so there are coins of all four that were before the currency reform that brought us the large folles as well as coins of the two Augusti that were before the elevation of the two new Caesares. That last group could be classed as not of the Tetrarchy but the pre-reforms of all four most certainly were. If you state a coin is not of the Tetrarchy, you need to point out how you determined that the coin was pre-elevation not just that it was pre-reform. The end date of the 1st Tetrarchy is easier since the coins of Galerius and Constantius become as Augustus and those of the old Augusti become as Senior Augusti. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am unclear how we prove a pre reform coin of Diocletian or Maximian is before the Caesares and, therefore not Tetrarchic. The easy answer is to find coins that do not have parallels in the name of the Caesares but it would seem possible that not all types were issued by all mints in all four names even though the elevation had occurred. Below is a reverse type used with Constantius Caesar and each of the Augusti making me suspect it would be safe to call the set Tetrarchic. [ATTACH=full]1139905[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1139903[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1139904[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not own the equivalent Galerius with the above reverse so you get (below) a different reverse from the pre reform Tetrarch Galerius.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1139909[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Many collectors of the Tetrarchy avoid the pre reform coins listed in RIC volume V and stick to the large folles and fractions of the period covered by RIC volume VI. These are my favorites of the post reform period of the 1st Tetrarchy:</p><p><br /></p><p>Diocletian follis[ATTACH=full]1139911[/ATTACH] </p><p>Maximian post reform radiate fraction (2/5 follis?)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1139912[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Constantius I Caesar follis</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1139913[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Galerius Caesar follis</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1139914[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4602170, member: 19463"]This statement deserves expansion. The tetrarchy was formed when Constantius and Galerius were made Caesares so there are coins of all four that were before the currency reform that brought us the large folles as well as coins of the two Augusti that were before the elevation of the two new Caesares. That last group could be classed as not of the Tetrarchy but the pre-reforms of all four most certainly were. If you state a coin is not of the Tetrarchy, you need to point out how you determined that the coin was pre-elevation not just that it was pre-reform. The end date of the 1st Tetrarchy is easier since the coins of Galerius and Constantius become as Augustus and those of the old Augusti become as Senior Augusti. I am unclear how we prove a pre reform coin of Diocletian or Maximian is before the Caesares and, therefore not Tetrarchic. The easy answer is to find coins that do not have parallels in the name of the Caesares but it would seem possible that not all types were issued by all mints in all four names even though the elevation had occurred. Below is a reverse type used with Constantius Caesar and each of the Augusti making me suspect it would be safe to call the set Tetrarchic. [ATTACH=full]1139905[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1139903[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1139904[/ATTACH] I do not own the equivalent Galerius with the above reverse so you get (below) a different reverse from the pre reform Tetrarch Galerius. [ATTACH=full]1139909[/ATTACH] Many collectors of the Tetrarchy avoid the pre reform coins listed in RIC volume V and stick to the large folles and fractions of the period covered by RIC volume VI. These are my favorites of the post reform period of the 1st Tetrarchy: Diocletian follis[ATTACH=full]1139911[/ATTACH] Maximian post reform radiate fraction (2/5 follis?) [ATTACH=full]1139912[/ATTACH] Constantius I Caesar follis [ATTACH=full]1139913[/ATTACH] Galerius Caesar follis [ATTACH=full]1139914[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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