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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 4847311, member: 75937"]I am struck by the similarity in artistic style, the subject matter of the reverse types, and fabric between the coins of Antioch in Pisidia and those of Parlais, which various numismatists have placed in Lycaonia or Pisidia, but Pisidia is almost certainly the correct attribution. Compare these:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1170287[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Julia Domna, AD 193-217.</font></p><p><font size="3">Roman provincial Æ 21.3 mm, 5.15 g, 7 h.</font></p><p><font size="3">Pisidia, Parlais, AD 193-196?</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: IVLIA-DOMNA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: IVL AVG C-OL PARLAIS, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, left foot on bucranium, holding spear and pinecone; behind his shoulders, crescent.</font></p><p><font size="3">Refs: BMC 21.11, 3; SNG von Aulock 5137 (same obv. die).</font></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/domna-antioch-in-pisidia-jpg.1147561/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><font size="3">Julia Domna, AD 193-217.</font></p><p><font size="3">Roman provincial Æ 22.4 mm, 5.76 g, 5 h.</font></p><p><font size="3">Pisidia, Antioch, AD 196-211.</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: IVLIA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: ANTIOCH GE-NI COL CAES, Genius of Antioch wearing kalathos or modius on head, standing facing, head left, holding branch and cornucopiae.</font></p><p><font size="3">Refs: BMC 19.181, 34-36; SNG BnF 1126-31; Lindgren I, 1211.</font></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/gordian-iii-antioch-in-pisidia-men-jpg.1147537/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><font size="3">Gordian III, AD 238-244.</font></p><p><font size="3">Roman Provincial Æ 35 mm, 26.72 g, 6 h.</font></p><p><font size="3">Pisidia, Antioch, AD 238-244.</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv: IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian III, r., seen from rear.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev: COL CAES ANTIOCH, S-R, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, foot on bucranium, holding sceptre and Victory (standing r., on globe, holding trophy), resting elbow on column; behind his shoulders, crescent; to l., rooster standing, l.</font></p><p><font size="3">Refs: RPC VII.2, — (unassigned; ID <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/3431" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/3431" rel="nofollow">3431</a>); Krzyżanowska XXII/94; BMC xix.187, 70.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>Although Hans Von Aulock and David Magie each note uncertainty about the location of Parlais in antiquity (as discussed previously at CT <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/carthaginians-in-sicily.364832/page-3#post-4739426" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/carthaginians-in-sicily.364832/page-3#post-4739426">here</a> and <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/perseus-st-paul-and-antoninus-pius.359986/#post-4506649" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/perseus-st-paul-and-antoninus-pius.359986/#post-4506649">here</a>, respectively), the consensus seems to be that L. Roberts' placement of the city at Barla on the western shore of Lake Eğirdir is most likely. So, too, the <a href="https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barla,_E%25C4%259Firdir&prev=search&pto=aue" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barla,_E%25C4%259Firdir&prev=search&pto=aue" rel="nofollow">Turkish Wikipedia article</a> on Barla.</p><p><br /></p><p>If so, the cities were only 42.5 km away from each other as the crow flies. However, on foot it's easily twice that distance. Nonetheless, commerce and communication between the two Latin-speaking colonies must have occurred on a regular basis. Here are some maps to put its location into perspective:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/heinrich_kiepert-_pisidian_antioch-jpg.1147546/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><font size="3">Antioch in Pisidia. From "Asia citerior," Auctore Henrico Kiepert Berolinensi. Geographische Verlagshandlung Dietrich Reimer (Ernst Vohsen) Berlin, Wilhemlstr. 29. (1903). <a href="https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~34460~1180072:Asia-citerior--Auctore-Henrico-Kiep" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~34460~1180072:Asia-citerior--Auctore-Henrico-Kiep" rel="nofollow">David Rumsey Historical Map Collection</a>.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1170290[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Source: <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/Antioch+of+Pisidia/@38.1686088,30.6489863,9.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x906996024ed0d75c!8m2!3d38.3082902!4d31.1895583" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/Antioch+of+Pisidia/@38.1686088,30.6489863,9.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x906996024ed0d75c!8m2!3d38.3082902!4d31.1895583" rel="nofollow">"Antioch of Pisidia" Google Maps.</a></font></p><p><br /></p><p>Parlais was never more than a tiny Roman colony, whereas Antioch seems to have been the larger and certainly the more numismatically prolific colony. I can't help but hypothesize that the coins of Parlais were struck by the mint in Antioch and transported to Parlais to be used there. Does anyone have any more information about this possibility?</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Post your coins of Pisidia or anything you feel is relevant! </i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 4847311, member: 75937"]I am struck by the similarity in artistic style, the subject matter of the reverse types, and fabric between the coins of Antioch in Pisidia and those of Parlais, which various numismatists have placed in Lycaonia or Pisidia, but Pisidia is almost certainly the correct attribution. Compare these: [ATTACH=full]1170287[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Julia Domna, AD 193-217. Roman provincial Æ 21.3 mm, 5.15 g, 7 h. Pisidia, Parlais, AD 193-196? Obv: IVLIA-DOMNA, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: IVL AVG C-OL PARLAIS, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, left foot on bucranium, holding spear and pinecone; behind his shoulders, crescent. Refs: BMC 21.11, 3; SNG von Aulock 5137 (same obv. die).[/SIZE] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/domna-antioch-in-pisidia-jpg.1147561/[/IMG] [SIZE=3]Julia Domna, AD 193-217. Roman provincial Æ 22.4 mm, 5.76 g, 5 h. Pisidia, Antioch, AD 196-211. Obv: IVLIA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: ANTIOCH GE-NI COL CAES, Genius of Antioch wearing kalathos or modius on head, standing facing, head left, holding branch and cornucopiae. Refs: BMC 19.181, 34-36; SNG BnF 1126-31; Lindgren I, 1211.[/SIZE] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/gordian-iii-antioch-in-pisidia-men-jpg.1147537/[/IMG] [SIZE=3]Gordian III, AD 238-244. Roman Provincial Æ 35 mm, 26.72 g, 6 h. Pisidia, Antioch, AD 238-244. Obv: IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian III, r., seen from rear. Rev: COL CAES ANTIOCH, S-R, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, foot on bucranium, holding sceptre and Victory (standing r., on globe, holding trophy), resting elbow on column; behind his shoulders, crescent; to l., rooster standing, l. Refs: RPC VII.2, — (unassigned; ID [URL='https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/3431']3431[/URL]); Krzyżanowska XXII/94; BMC xix.187, 70.[/SIZE] Although Hans Von Aulock and David Magie each note uncertainty about the location of Parlais in antiquity (as discussed previously at CT [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/carthaginians-in-sicily.364832/page-3#post-4739426']here[/URL] and [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/perseus-st-paul-and-antoninus-pius.359986/#post-4506649']here[/URL], respectively), the consensus seems to be that L. Roberts' placement of the city at Barla on the western shore of Lake Eğirdir is most likely. So, too, the [URL='https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barla,_E%25C4%259Firdir&prev=search&pto=aue']Turkish Wikipedia article[/URL] on Barla. If so, the cities were only 42.5 km away from each other as the crow flies. However, on foot it's easily twice that distance. Nonetheless, commerce and communication between the two Latin-speaking colonies must have occurred on a regular basis. Here are some maps to put its location into perspective: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/heinrich_kiepert-_pisidian_antioch-jpg.1147546/[/IMG] [SIZE=3]Antioch in Pisidia. From "Asia citerior," Auctore Henrico Kiepert Berolinensi. Geographische Verlagshandlung Dietrich Reimer (Ernst Vohsen) Berlin, Wilhemlstr. 29. (1903). [URL='https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~34460~1180072:Asia-citerior--Auctore-Henrico-Kiep']David Rumsey Historical Map Collection[/URL].[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1170290[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Source: [URL='https://www.google.com/maps/place/Antioch+of+Pisidia/@38.1686088,30.6489863,9.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x906996024ed0d75c!8m2!3d38.3082902!4d31.1895583']"Antioch of Pisidia" Google Maps.[/URL][/SIZE] Parlais was never more than a tiny Roman colony, whereas Antioch seems to have been the larger and certainly the more numismatically prolific colony. I can't help but hypothesize that the coins of Parlais were struck by the mint in Antioch and transported to Parlais to be used there. Does anyone have any more information about this possibility? [I]Post your coins of Pisidia or anything you feel is relevant! [/I][/QUOTE]
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