Coins of Crispus

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I did a little write about Crispus here-
    http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/soap/

    some more articles of a more scholarly nature than my page above
    from http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/articles/

    Austin, N. J. E. “Constantine and Crispus, A.D. 326.” Acta Classica 23 (1980) : 133-138.

    Guthrie, P. “The Execution of Crispus.” Phoenix 20, no. 4 (1966) : 325- 331.

    Woods, David. “On the Death of the Empress Fausta.” GR 45, no. 1. (April 1998) : 70-86.


    I think that the best series to collect for Crispus is BEATA TRANQVILLITAS, especially from Trier and Lyons, because of the wide variety of obverse bust types. Alten & Zschuke in Die römische Münzserie Beata Tranquillitas in der Prägestätte Trier 321-323 (RMBT) list 42 different types of shields. The VLPP and VIRTVS EXERCIT series are next in collectibility. Below are a few from the three series that I believe have the greatest variety for collectors.

    I have a Crispus page with some examples here- http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/Rulers/Crispus/

    a few examples--

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    shield on left arm with horseman spearing enemy and another enemy on ground.
    RIC VII Trier 372


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    Not in RIC; RMBT 190
    Shield engraved with a group of soldiers holding up shields and spears.

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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Loving this thread. Here's Trier:

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    I'm sure @Sallent thinks the demise of both Crispus and Fausta was the product of a nefarious plot devised by Constantine to get rid of both of them. (Could be true!)
     
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  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    This one arrived today as part of a batch of LRB I got distracted with. Nothing special but there aren't too many other coins from Arles in the thread so far.

    Crispus - AE3

    Obv:– CRISPVS NOB C, Laureate head right
    Rev:– CAESARVM NOSTRORVM, Wreath enclosing VOT X.
    Minted in Arles (//T*AR).
    Reference(s) – RIC VII Arles 254

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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have nothing new but will pile on my previously shown Crispus coins.

    Three from Rome
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    Siscia
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    obverse: CRISPVS NOBILISSIMVS CAES - Thessalonika
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    Nicomedia
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    Cyzicus
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  6. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    Well here are my two Crispus offerings. I'm conscious that my images are not great and I will research photography to see how I can show obverse and reverse on the same image. If anyone can point me to the best thread on this I would be very grateful as there are pages on the subject.
    First coin is SRVC3917 second is 3923 Consular Bust Camp Gate.
    CrispusA.JPG CrispusB.JPG CrispusD.JPG CrispusE.JPG
     
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  7. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    A little late but here is a few of my Crispus coins. Also great coins everyone.

    Doug

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is not the best by any means and was written using software no one uses any more but it is there if you can adapt to the programs you have. There are so many software packages that can do this, I am not going to try to adapt this even to the ones I have seen.
    http://www.pbase.com/dougsmit/coincombo
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  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    My only Crispus sofar, sticks out between all these high grade examples shown in this thread.
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sorry, but I couldn't make out any details on your coin @Andres2 so I lightened it some. It's not a bad example:
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  11. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    Bing, you're an artist!
     
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  12. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    Agree with this. Some interesting shield types have already been posted above. Here's another, also from Trier, from my collection:

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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    My two Crispi and only Fausta

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    Crispus, AE3 Aquilea mint, 2nd officina
    CRISPVS NOB CAES, cuirassed and laureate bust right
    CAESARVM NOSTRORVM, VOT/V within a laurel wreath, AQS. at exergue
    3.22 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 31,


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    Crispus, AE3 Lugdunum mint, 1st officina
    CRISPVS NOB CAES, cuirassed and laureate bust right
    BEATA TRANQUILLITAS, Altar surmounted with three stars, inscribed VO/TIS/XX. C|R in field and PLG at exergue
    3.1 gr
    Ref : RIC VII Lyons # 133, Cohen # 6


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    Fausta, AE3 Trier mint
    FLAV MAX FAVSTA AVG, draped bust right
    SPES REIP VBLICAE, Fausta standing, holding Constantinus II and Constantius II in her arms,PTR crescent at exergue
    3.0 gr
    Ref : LRBC # 36, Cohen # 15v

    Q
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Are you sure about that attribution? The reverse seems to be Fausta with Gorgon breastplate :D

    CT-Cucumbor-Fausta-Gorgon.jpg
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    Sure => Q's example is a bit more amusing than mine ... but funny, now I'll always look at my coin that way!! (thanks TIF)

    :rolleyes:
     
  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    @TIF you kill me everytime you hijack a coin.
    Bravo !!

    Q
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Similarly => I've seen this "two confronting boars" coin referred to as a "Lion skin"

    Lesbos Two boars confronted TIF.jpg

    Bruttium Rhegion.jpg

    Hmmm, they do look kinda similar, eh?

    errr, ummm ... oh, but please don't concentrate on the sweet Moosehead addition (that was TIF's awesome touch)

    ... yes, I agree => she's pretty clever (Marsha)
     
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  18. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Victor is right. The book lists 255 type varieties for Crispus from Trier alone. Many pages look like this:
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    With line-drawn bust types and actual photos. The book is in German, but the tables are easy to read and the pictures are in English :)

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  19. Albion Antiquities

    Albion Antiquities New Member

    Crispus obv.JPG Crispus rev.JPG Crispus obv.JPG Crispus rev.JPG
     
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    Albion Antiquities New Member

  21. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    No. The letters are dreadful. Can you see if you can see casting pearls>
     
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