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<p>[QUOTE="GregH, post: 2267191, member: 75936"]I am keen to have one coin of Cleopatra VII (“The” Cleopatra that everybody has heard of). However I’m confused about what actually are genuine Cleopatra VII coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are bronze 80 drachma pieces that sell for hundreds of dollars in shocking condition.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And then there are coins from Paphos mint in Cyprus (bronze chalkons) advertised as Cleopatra. These were previously attributed to Ptolemy IV – but now reattributed to Cleopatra with the obverse of Isis now described as “Cleopatra as Isis”. This is based on a book by Kreuzer “The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus”.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Some dealers sell the coin as Cleopatra and say this:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>“Kreuzer, in his book The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus, assembles evidence dating this type to Cleopatra VII instead of the reign of Ptolemy IV used in older references.”</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Other dealers sell the coin (for less) as Ptolemy IV and say this:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>“Kreuzer, in his book “The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus,” argues that this type and a few other small types were issued by Cleopatra VII. This opinion in not currently widely accepted. Another possibility is that these small types were issued under several rulers in the late Ptolemaic period. The Ptolemy IV attribution, which we also believe is questionable, is from Svoronos.”</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Is this just a case of wishful marketing? Attaching a famous name to a coin in order to inflate the price? Similar to “coins of Pontius Pilate” which in my opinion are really coins of Tiberius.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GregH, post: 2267191, member: 75936"]I am keen to have one coin of Cleopatra VII (“The” Cleopatra that everybody has heard of). However I’m confused about what actually are genuine Cleopatra VII coins. There are bronze 80 drachma pieces that sell for hundreds of dollars in shocking condition. And then there are coins from Paphos mint in Cyprus (bronze chalkons) advertised as Cleopatra. These were previously attributed to Ptolemy IV – but now reattributed to Cleopatra with the obverse of Isis now described as “Cleopatra as Isis”. This is based on a book by Kreuzer “The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus”. Some dealers sell the coin as Cleopatra and say this: “Kreuzer, in his book The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus, assembles evidence dating this type to Cleopatra VII instead of the reign of Ptolemy IV used in older references.” Other dealers sell the coin (for less) as Ptolemy IV and say this: “Kreuzer, in his book “The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII and Augustus in Cyprus,” argues that this type and a few other small types were issued by Cleopatra VII. This opinion in not currently widely accepted. Another possibility is that these small types were issued under several rulers in the late Ptolemaic period. The Ptolemy IV attribution, which we also believe is questionable, is from Svoronos.” Is this just a case of wishful marketing? Attaching a famous name to a coin in order to inflate the price? Similar to “coins of Pontius Pilate” which in my opinion are really coins of Tiberius.[/QUOTE]
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