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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;De Orc, post: 251667, member: 4408&quot;]I never said that and you know it Aidan stop trying to avoid the issue, you are going out of your way to confuse new collectors with a term that is not used by any one now other than yourself but you cant admit it, is this term used in the coin world today? No has it been used in the last 20 odd years? No was it used by anyone prior to it appearing in one book and a brief period in Krause? No it has as much relavence to the hobby as the Jabberwocky does &amp; that appears in a Poem, Book, Screenplay, Film, Comerdy Sketch &amp; Song.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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