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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 7814407, member: 110350"]I have no pre-Roman Iberian coins, and only one Roman Provincial coin minted in Hispania. The style is certainly distinctive, in both periods.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tiberius, AE As, 14-37 AD, Hispania Tarraconensis, Turiaso Mint [now Tarazona, Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain], M. Pont. Marsus and C. Mari. Vegetus, <i>duoviri</i>. Obv. Laureate head right, TI CAESAR AVG F IMP PO<u>NT</u> M / Rev. Bull standing right, head facing, M PO<u>NT</u> <u>MAR</u>SO; <u>MVN</u> <u>TVR</u> in field above bull, C <u>MAR</u>I <u>VE</u>GETO below, II VIR in right field [ligate letters underlined]. RPC [<i>Roman Provincial Coinage</i>] Vol. I 418 (1992); RPC I Online at <a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/418" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/418" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/418</a>; ACIP 3291a [Villaronga, L. & J. Benages, <i>Ancient Coinage of the Iberian Peninsula: Greek / Punic / Iberian / Roman, Societat Catalana D 'Estudis Numismatics, Institut D 'Estudis Catalans</i> (Barcelona, 2011)]; FAB 2450 [Alvarez-Burgos, F., <i>La Moneda Hispanica desde sus origines hasta el Siglo V</i> (Madrid, 2008)]; SNG Copenhagen 606 [<i>Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, Copenhagen, The Royal Collection of Coins and Medals, Danish National Museum, Part 43, Spain-Gaul</i> (Copenhagen 1979), Parts 40-43 reprinted as one volume, 1994]. 28 mm., 11.98 g. <i>Purchased from Tom Vossen, Netherlands, May 2021; ex. Aureo & Calico, Auction 364, 21 April 2021, Lot 1202</i>. *</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1343131[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>* Turiaso was "a municipium of Hispania Tarraconensis, now Tarazona, situated on a small river that runs into the Ebro, to the south of Tudela." <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Turiaso" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Turiaso" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Turiaso</a> (quoting Stevenson's <i>Dictionary of Roman Coins</i> (1880)). See also <a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/x51280" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/x51280" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/x51280</a> ("Located in the hinterland of NE Spain close to the Ebro river valley, c. 60km north of the ancient site of Bilbilis Augusta, the Iberian settlement named Turiasu later became an important Roman city called Turiaso. Under Visigothic rule it was called Tirasona and is now called Tarazona").</p><p><br /></p><p>Tarazona is now in Aragon in the north of Spain. Under the Roman Empire, it was part of Hispania Tarraconensis, the largest of the three provinces in Roman Spain, along with Hispania Baetica and Lusitania. Under the Republic, before Augustus's reorganization in 27 BCE, Turiaso was part of Hispania Citerior (Nearer Iberia, i.e., closer to Rome, as compared to Hispania Ulterior).</p><p><br /></p><p>For a discussion of Turiaso's coinage, see the section entitled "Regio Turiasonensis Turiaso," in Sir George Francis Hill, "Notes on the ancient coinage of Hispania citerior" (Numismatic Notes and Monographs, American Numismatic Society 1931) at <a href="http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan86651" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan86651" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan86651</a>. The article includes, among other things, a list of all the names of magistrates (<i>duoviri</i>) found on the coins of Augustus and Tiberius minted in Turiaso, and notes that "G. Marius Vegetus [named on my coin] appears both as aedile and as duumvir. Under Augustus, both asses and semisses were struck by duoviri, and the aediles do not seem to have issued coins. Under Tiberius, as usual, the duoviri strike the asses, the aediles the semisses; but who was responsible for the sestertii or dupondii does not appear."</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the bull on the reverse, Kevin Butcher notes at p. 62 of <i>Roman Provincial Coins</i>, <i>supra</i>, that "A standing bull, probably connected with anniversaries commemorating the foundation of the various colonies, occurs at Caesaraugustus, Celsa, Calagurris, Cascantum, Ercavica, Graccurris, Turiaso, and Clunia." Oxen pulling a plow were certainly a common symbol of the foundation of colonies on Roman coins, so such an interpretation is not surprising, even though a plow is nowhere in sight! See Jones, John Melville, <i>A Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins</i> (Seaby 1990) at pp. 121-122 (entry for “Founder”), explaining that the Romans “inherited a custom from the Etruscans of defining the boundaries of a new city by marking them with a plough,” so that certain coins showing plowing can be interpreted as a reference to the founding of colonies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 7814407, member: 110350"]I have no pre-Roman Iberian coins, and only one Roman Provincial coin minted in Hispania. The style is certainly distinctive, in both periods. Tiberius, AE As, 14-37 AD, Hispania Tarraconensis, Turiaso Mint [now Tarazona, Zaragoza, Aragon, Spain], M. Pont. Marsus and C. Mari. Vegetus, [I]duoviri[/I]. Obv. Laureate head right, TI CAESAR AVG F IMP PO[U]NT[/U] M / Rev. Bull standing right, head facing, M PO[U]NT[/U] [U]MAR[/U]SO; [U]MVN[/U] [U]TVR[/U] in field above bull, C [U]MAR[/U]I [U]VE[/U]GETO below, II VIR in right field [ligate letters underlined]. RPC [[I]Roman Provincial Coinage[/I]] Vol. I 418 (1992); RPC I Online at [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/418[/URL]; ACIP 3291a [Villaronga, L. & J. Benages, [I]Ancient Coinage of the Iberian Peninsula: Greek / Punic / Iberian / Roman, Societat Catalana D 'Estudis Numismatics, Institut D 'Estudis Catalans[/I] (Barcelona, 2011)]; FAB 2450 [Alvarez-Burgos, F., [I]La Moneda Hispanica desde sus origines hasta el Siglo V[/I] (Madrid, 2008)]; SNG Copenhagen 606 [[I]Sylloge Nummorum Graecorum, Copenhagen, The Royal Collection of Coins and Medals, Danish National Museum, Part 43, Spain-Gaul[/I] (Copenhagen 1979), Parts 40-43 reprinted as one volume, 1994]. 28 mm., 11.98 g. [I]Purchased from Tom Vossen, Netherlands, May 2021; ex. Aureo & Calico, Auction 364, 21 April 2021, Lot 1202[/I]. * [ATTACH=full]1343131[/ATTACH] * Turiaso was "a municipium of Hispania Tarraconensis, now Tarazona, situated on a small river that runs into the Ebro, to the south of Tudela." [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Turiaso[/URL] (quoting Stevenson's [I]Dictionary of Roman Coins[/I] (1880)). See also [URL]https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/x51280[/URL] ("Located in the hinterland of NE Spain close to the Ebro river valley, c. 60km north of the ancient site of Bilbilis Augusta, the Iberian settlement named Turiasu later became an important Roman city called Turiaso. Under Visigothic rule it was called Tirasona and is now called Tarazona"). Tarazona is now in Aragon in the north of Spain. Under the Roman Empire, it was part of Hispania Tarraconensis, the largest of the three provinces in Roman Spain, along with Hispania Baetica and Lusitania. Under the Republic, before Augustus's reorganization in 27 BCE, Turiaso was part of Hispania Citerior (Nearer Iberia, i.e., closer to Rome, as compared to Hispania Ulterior). For a discussion of Turiaso's coinage, see the section entitled "Regio Turiasonensis Turiaso," in Sir George Francis Hill, "Notes on the ancient coinage of Hispania citerior" (Numismatic Notes and Monographs, American Numismatic Society 1931) at [URL]http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan86651[/URL]. The article includes, among other things, a list of all the names of magistrates ([I]duoviri[/I]) found on the coins of Augustus and Tiberius minted in Turiaso, and notes that "G. Marius Vegetus [named on my coin] appears both as aedile and as duumvir. Under Augustus, both asses and semisses were struck by duoviri, and the aediles do not seem to have issued coins. Under Tiberius, as usual, the duoviri strike the asses, the aediles the semisses; but who was responsible for the sestertii or dupondii does not appear." As for the bull on the reverse, Kevin Butcher notes at p. 62 of [I]Roman Provincial Coins[/I], [I]supra[/I], that "A standing bull, probably connected with anniversaries commemorating the foundation of the various colonies, occurs at Caesaraugustus, Celsa, Calagurris, Cascantum, Ercavica, Graccurris, Turiaso, and Clunia." Oxen pulling a plow were certainly a common symbol of the foundation of colonies on Roman coins, so such an interpretation is not surprising, even though a plow is nowhere in sight! See Jones, John Melville, [I]A Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins[/I] (Seaby 1990) at pp. 121-122 (entry for “Founder”), explaining that the Romans “inherited a custom from the Etruscans of defining the boundaries of a new city by marking them with a plough,” so that certain coins showing plowing can be interpreted as a reference to the founding of colonies.[/QUOTE]
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