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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 7851635, member: 110350"]The only coin from a famous collector that I've acquired since I posted in this thread originally, back in March, is this one -- which actually passed through the hands of three different famous collectors/dealers, namely RBW (Robert B. Witschonke), BCD (see coin ticket below), and ASW (Alan S. Walker). </p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republic, C. Antestius, AR Denarius 146 BCE. Obv. Head of Roma right wearing winged helmet with peaked visor (ornamented with griffin’s head?), pearl necklace, and earring of pellets in form of bunch of grapes, C • ANTESTI upwards behind [partially off flan, <u>ANTE</u> ligate], X [mark of value, 10 asses]* beneath chin / Rev. Dioscuri holding spears, on horseback galloping right; puppy running right below horses’ hooves, with both forefeet raised; in exergue, ROMA; minor flan flaws on reverse. Crawford 219/1e, RSC I Antestia 1, BMCRR I 859, Sear RCV I 95/1 (ill.), Sydenham 411. 19 mm.. 3.76 g., 3 h. Ex. CNG Auction 378, July 13, 2016, Lot 408; ex. RBW [Richard B. Witschonke] Collection; ex. BCD Collection [see old coin ticket], purchased by RBW from BCD March 1985; ex. ASW [Alan S. Walker, currently Dir. of Nomos AG]. **</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1352260[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1352262[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>*My only denarius issued before the re-tariffing of that denomination to 16 asses circa 141 BCE.</p><p><br /></p><p>** Crawford states at Vol. I p. 258 that the moneyer “is otherwise unknown,” and suggests that “[t]he moneyer’s <i>cognomen</i>, if the puppy is held to be significant, <i>may</i> perhaps be Catulus,” meaning puppy or wolf cub in Latin. (Emphasis in original.) Grueber suggests a different (and even more speculative) possibility for the significance of the puppy, namely that “[t]he dog was evidently the symbol of the Antestia <i>gens</i>, and consequently the earlier coins, which have that symbol and are without moneyer’s name, may have been issued by a member of this <i>gens</i>.” (See BMCRR p.114 n. 1.) The earlier coins Grueber refers to comprise the amonymous dog series cataloged as BMCRR 486-492 (Crawford 122/1-122/6), dated circa 206-195 BCE -- i.e., 50+ years prior to the issuance of this coin. Without more, positing a family connection to those earlier anonymous coins based solely on the presence of dogs on them would seem rather tenuous, especially given that there do not appear to be any dogs on the later Antestia <i>gens</i> coins, either under the Republic or under Augustus during the period when moneyers’ names were still listed. </p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the subtypes or varieties of this issue have the moneyer’s name on the reverse, with the puppy on the obverse behind Roma’s head. According to Grueber (p. 114 n. 1), this kind of varying interchange was an “innovation” that began with this issue.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 7851635, member: 110350"]The only coin from a famous collector that I've acquired since I posted in this thread originally, back in March, is this one -- which actually passed through the hands of three different famous collectors/dealers, namely RBW (Robert B. Witschonke), BCD (see coin ticket below), and ASW (Alan S. Walker). Roman Republic, C. Antestius, AR Denarius 146 BCE. Obv. Head of Roma right wearing winged helmet with peaked visor (ornamented with griffin’s head?), pearl necklace, and earring of pellets in form of bunch of grapes, C • ANTESTI upwards behind [partially off flan, [U]ANTE[/U] ligate], X [mark of value, 10 asses]* beneath chin / Rev. Dioscuri holding spears, on horseback galloping right; puppy running right below horses’ hooves, with both forefeet raised; in exergue, ROMA; minor flan flaws on reverse. Crawford 219/1e, RSC I Antestia 1, BMCRR I 859, Sear RCV I 95/1 (ill.), Sydenham 411. 19 mm.. 3.76 g., 3 h. Ex. CNG Auction 378, July 13, 2016, Lot 408; ex. RBW [Richard B. Witschonke] Collection; ex. BCD Collection [see old coin ticket], purchased by RBW from BCD March 1985; ex. ASW [Alan S. Walker, currently Dir. of Nomos AG]. ** [ATTACH=full]1352260[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1352262[/ATTACH] *My only denarius issued before the re-tariffing of that denomination to 16 asses circa 141 BCE. ** Crawford states at Vol. I p. 258 that the moneyer “is otherwise unknown,” and suggests that “[t]he moneyer’s [I]cognomen[/I], if the puppy is held to be significant, [I]may[/I] perhaps be Catulus,” meaning puppy or wolf cub in Latin. (Emphasis in original.) Grueber suggests a different (and even more speculative) possibility for the significance of the puppy, namely that “[t]he dog was evidently the symbol of the Antestia [I]gens[/I], and consequently the earlier coins, which have that symbol and are without moneyer’s name, may have been issued by a member of this [I]gens[/I].” (See BMCRR p.114 n. 1.) The earlier coins Grueber refers to comprise the amonymous dog series cataloged as BMCRR 486-492 (Crawford 122/1-122/6), dated circa 206-195 BCE -- i.e., 50+ years prior to the issuance of this coin. Without more, positing a family connection to those earlier anonymous coins based solely on the presence of dogs on them would seem rather tenuous, especially given that there do not appear to be any dogs on the later Antestia [I]gens[/I] coins, either under the Republic or under Augustus during the period when moneyers’ names were still listed. Some of the subtypes or varieties of this issue have the moneyer’s name on the reverse, with the puppy on the obverse behind Roma’s head. According to Grueber (p. 114 n. 1), this kind of varying interchange was an “innovation” that began with this issue.[/QUOTE]
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