Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Coins are bad investments because....
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 1763072, member: 25547"]<a href="http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/" rel="nofollow">http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/</a> gives me a value of $31,786 for 1967 to present but that's a deceiving number in several ways. First, it assumes 100% reinvestment of dividends. That's unrealistic because you'd have to pay taxes on those dividends. Second, in the 1960's there was no practical way to invest $450 in the S&P 500; index funds hadn't been invented yet. Finally, brokerage fees at the time made investing $450 in even <u>one</u> stock problematic -- brokerages would hit you with an "odd lot" surcharge.</p><p> </p><p>But return is only one aspect of an investment -- risk is at least as important. A diversified portfolio of stocks has very different risks from a single coin or even a small group of coins. As a simple example, today that "XF" 1916-D from 1967 could slab out as high as AU53 (or even 55), or it could come back as a cleaned VF.</p><p><br /></p><p>So in summary, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from these raw numbers, especially for future investing. My own opinion is that the bid-ask spread on individual collectibles is too high to make them a good "pure" investment play.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="benveniste, post: 1763072, member: 25547"][url]http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/[/url] gives me a value of $31,786 for 1967 to present but that's a deceiving number in several ways. First, it assumes 100% reinvestment of dividends. That's unrealistic because you'd have to pay taxes on those dividends. Second, in the 1960's there was no practical way to invest $450 in the S&P 500; index funds hadn't been invented yet. Finally, brokerage fees at the time made investing $450 in even [U]one[/U] stock problematic -- brokerages would hit you with an "odd lot" surcharge. But return is only one aspect of an investment -- risk is at least as important. A diversified portfolio of stocks has very different risks from a single coin or even a small group of coins. As a simple example, today that "XF" 1916-D from 1967 could slab out as high as AU53 (or even 55), or it could come back as a cleaned VF. So in summary, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from these raw numbers, especially for future investing. My own opinion is that the bid-ask spread on individual collectibles is too high to make them a good "pure" investment play.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Coin Chat
>
Coins are bad investments because....
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...