Coins and security

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tulipone, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I have lived more than 70 years in the US and that in a highly urbanized region and for the last 40 years less than ten miles form what is considered to be among the five most dangerous cities in America. I have never seen a stabbing, armed robbery or homicide. The only time my person was involved in a crime was in Rome, Italy (looking to purchase Ancient coins).
     
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  3. World Colonial

    World Colonial Active Member

    Personally, I wouldn't store my collection at home even with a home safe but that is just me. I don't believe that my neighborhood is at any particular risk of a break in but just don't consider it prudent. As in the UK, most homes are not designed to keep someone out who has any determination to break in.
     
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  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    A couple weeks ago ago I was within line-of-sight of a gun murder and a couple hundred feet away, the moment it happened; only the fact that the victim was pointed a different direction from the shooter kept rounds from coming my way. In the last 6 months, within the areas I walk every day, there have been:

    3 murders
    8 rapes
    47 robberies
    52 aggravated assaults

    Those numbers double if you include "everything within a half mile of me" but I do_not_go in the direction of North Philadelphia from where I live.

    If you live in a city in America, you get used to crime. It's a very different thing even if you're only a few miles away.
     
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  5. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    I think that this sums up what I was asking. It seems sad to me that you have a hobby that is more difficult to enjoy if it lives someplace else.

    Certainly I was not suggesting that any particular country was any safer than any other. It is all about being in the wrong place wherever that may be.
     
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  6. Player11

    Player11 Bullish

    Out of sight is out of mind.....do not leave coin cases / boxes visible in car. If you have to have boxes of stuff in car while coins in trunk (trunk full) cover the boxes with a dark blue sheet. Traveling light is best. Never leave your coins unattended.

    if traveling to a show I drive nonstop to destination (hotel or show) except to go thru drive thru. Always be sure your not being followed too. The last day of the show (usually real slow) I have a good lunch before closing time so not famished once leave.....
     
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  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Where there are people there are bad people!

    I've been thinking more and more about the security of my collection lately. Maybe my geriatric German Shepherd might deter a would-be burglar I shouldn't count on it. Putting my collection in a safe deposit box might be a great way to go, I feel like I would be missing out on the point of collecting - enjoying my collection.

    I actually kind of want a coin cabinet. It would be my most favorite piece of furniture!

    Also, I move every couple of years and don't own a home. Bolting a safe to the floor may be out of the question. I need to figure something out. Random red coin boxes aren't going to work forever!
     
  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Me two . . .
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    You need not forego enjoying your collection . . . Everyone should have a SDB . . . you can still enjoy your collection by bringing home different portions of it at different times, returning one to bring home another, always leaving most of your coins protected in the bank.

    That provides much greater protection, allowing you to reduce how much risk you decide to take, rather than risking it all, by having no SDB at all.
     
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  10. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    This is why suburbs spring up. People who are able to leave, leave.
    The rest are stuck as the inner city implodes on itself being reduced to a crime riddled, over-populated, unnatural, undesirable situation for human beings to have to adapt to. Maybe they just havent gotten the right mayor for the jobs though. Always just need one more election to solve the problem.

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  11. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    I've been to Philly btw. I walked the streets. Luckily not in the bad parts though. At least didn't think I did. Where I was seemed decent. Not any worse than parts of Rockford.

    I guess I have to take that back. I just remember now hearing on the news about a city bus that got riddled with bullets overnight in the short time I was there. :D. No joke.

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  12. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    The robbery stats came from this site, which uses UN data from 2010:

    http://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/robery/

    The assault info is a little less reliable; taken from a chart comparing assault (or as they called it, "contact crime") rates in 17 industrialized countries. Source identified as "Dutch Ministry of Justice" and dated 2001. Can't find a link and don't want to take the time to upload the graphic.

    However, in searching for a link, I came across another listing that ranks countries by ALL crime per capita. US is #22, and many of the countries ranking higher are the same as those in my previous post regarding assault:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000

    I doubt the US would fare as well in homocide rates, but that particular type of crime didn't seem as germaine to the OP's concerns.
     
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I know, I have been watching "Happy Valley" and am afraid to visit Britain : - )
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    If you get to the LA area (I'm not there, but close) give me a buzz and I'll buy you a cuppa coffee...or tea.
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    If someone burgles my house, they will have to spend some time to find all the coins I have at numerous locations (not for security...I'm just sloppy) and then suffer the mental trauma of deciding if they REALLY want to steal a 1979 5 Deutschmark or a 1963 50 Xu Vietnamese coin (just two that happen to be next to my computer).
     
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  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Gawd...my coin room is full of military trade tokens. The thief will face the disappointment when they go to sell...
     
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  17. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    Hey it's nasty up North! Actually I am surprised that you could understand their accents and enjoy a high speed car chase at like 30mph. We enjoyed Happy Valley though. Quality TV.

    I just had a language problem in a restaurant. How can someone not understand the spoken word 'tomato' even if it is in a British accent?
     
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  18. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    I'll take you up on that. Back around Thanksgiving probably for around a month between Corona/Riverside and Thousand Oaks.
     
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  19. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    We need to get up to the West Midland coins show when you are free.
     
  20. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd love to have one too, but I'd only put my ancients in it. I'd be a little afraid of what it would do to some of my other coins.

    Does it look like this, by any chance? ;)
    coin room.jpg
     
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  21. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Good lord, @SuperDave, my wife would (and perhaps I would too) s*** nickels if I lived near that kind of crime. Up north here, on the border of ND & MN, crime is increasing, but there is no place in this (tiny) metro area of 200,000+ where ANYTHING like that amount of crime takes place on a regular or even very occasional basis. As we of Norwegian ancestry say, "uff da."

    Steve
     
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