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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 337578, member: 4626"]You know I've hear this mentioned several times, and the answer I've come up with as to why money earned in a garage sale is not taxable is that you're selling items for much <i>less</i> than you originally paid, thus are not actually earning any profit. See below for the "hobby rule" as to why you couldn't claim the loss though...</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not entirely true... you <i>can</i> deduct hobby expenses for selling coins. However if coin selling is a hobby, and not a business, you can only deduct expenses up to the total amount of earnings you claim as taxable income. In other words, if it's a hobby and not a business, you can not claim a net loss for the year; best you can do is break even. (Similar to the rule about how you can only claim as much gambling losses as winnings.) To actually be able to claim a net loss for the business of selling coins, that 3 year rule of attempting to make a profit (and actually earning a net profit in at least one of them) applies.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hobby expenses can include anything necessary to participate in the hobby. In the realm of coin collecting, you could justify things like supplies, books, and grading fees, to name a few. (Books may be a little iffy, you'd have to establish that you bought the book primarily for the sake of participating in the hobby.)</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Amen on that. The only thing that will get you in more trouble than trying to hide legitimately taxable income from the IRS, is lying about it. (However of those 3 people only Al Capone got in trouble for tax evasion; it's what he went to jail for. A landmark case btw that established that even illegal income is subject to tax; Capone unsuccesfully tried to use the defense that you can not legally tax illegal income.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 337578, member: 4626"]You know I've hear this mentioned several times, and the answer I've come up with as to why money earned in a garage sale is not taxable is that you're selling items for much [I]less[/I] than you originally paid, thus are not actually earning any profit. See below for the "hobby rule" as to why you couldn't claim the loss though... Not entirely true... you [I]can[/I] deduct hobby expenses for selling coins. However if coin selling is a hobby, and not a business, you can only deduct expenses up to the total amount of earnings you claim as taxable income. In other words, if it's a hobby and not a business, you can not claim a net loss for the year; best you can do is break even. (Similar to the rule about how you can only claim as much gambling losses as winnings.) To actually be able to claim a net loss for the business of selling coins, that 3 year rule of attempting to make a profit (and actually earning a net profit in at least one of them) applies. Hobby expenses can include anything necessary to participate in the hobby. In the realm of coin collecting, you could justify things like supplies, books, and grading fees, to name a few. (Books may be a little iffy, you'd have to establish that you bought the book primarily for the sake of participating in the hobby.) Amen on that. The only thing that will get you in more trouble than trying to hide legitimately taxable income from the IRS, is lying about it. (However of those 3 people only Al Capone got in trouble for tax evasion; it's what he went to jail for. A landmark case btw that established that even illegal income is subject to tax; Capone unsuccesfully tried to use the defense that you can not legally tax illegal income.)[/QUOTE]
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