Coins And History

I agree. But WW2 may have prevented an even bloodier conflict between the West and the USSR in the late 40s, early 50s when the atomic bomb may have been developed by the Soviets. As bad as WW2 was, it may have been a blessing.

 

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You just brought up politics with those two coins. Politics is embedded in history, which creates coins.

 

To somehow discount Hitler down to a common rabble rouser is ignorant of history and insulting to those families who died because of HIS actions, to say the least.

 

You are 100 percent correct in that assertion. When the Soviet Union collasped in 1990, many of their archival files where opened to historians. Many contained files from the dreaded NKVD/OGPU/CHEKA, Communist version of "Murder INC." Stalin and his henchmen murdered 50 Million people.
Also in these files where secret dossiers about Central Planning for modernization of the Red Airforce/ Army/ Navy.
Their goal was take over Western Europe in 1945/ America by 1955. Like you stated, they started in dribs and drabs by invading Finland in 39/ Latvia/ Estonia/ Lithuania in 40. They also took the Eastern portion of Poland in 39. Even without nuclear bombs it would have been a nightmare. Like I said, no Versailles no Hitler, no National Socialists election win in 33.

 

Speculation, rationalization, and passing the buck. Plenty of opportunities to stop him, Versailles or not. Times were tough everywhere in the early 30s.

 

Kingdom of Italy
Napoleon I
Milan Mint
AV 40 Lire 1814
In June 1800 Napoleon First Consul of the Directory met the Austrian Army commanded by Von Melas at Marengo. Melas surprised the French and had them on the run, however new reinforcements arrived to beef up the French center. Then with a well timed cavalry charge at the Austrian center, plus harassing cannon fire, the Austrians retreated, back to Alessandria. Next day Von Melas requested a truce. The victory strenghtened First Consul Napoleon's position in France, led to Lombardy-Venetia falling under French rule. Most of Northern former Habsburg Italy was now French.
Later, Napoleon would secure most of Italy, and in 1806 formally became King of Italy.

 

Actually they only end up temporarily in a museum. From museum acquisition several things happen.
1) Coins not being popular hand-on exhibits these days, they're de-acquisitioned to make room & $ available for an interactive display where children can dig up plastic dinosaur bones in a Jurassic pit filled with coarse paving sand.
2) The coins end up in the basement of the museum where eventually they end in in some politican's footlocker which is filled to the brim with gold coins.
3) The coins end up at the museum and are stolen and melted as the thieves don't want to have to deal with "hot museum coins". This actually happened to about 2,000 Roman gold medallions stolen out of a museum in Paris I believe it was. All(?) were melted.
4) Coins end up in the museum and end up in some official's pocket and are auctioned in the US at major sales with "semi-official" sanction. It's my guess that this is what's happened with innumerable Russian roubles (silver) since the fall of the USSR. However, I'm not a Russian collector so it'd be good to hear from someone as to where all those rare roubles since around 2000 are comming from.

 

Thank God for the one man that could see what was really going on with Hitler and Stalin - Winston Churchill.

 

I'm wondering if this image with the Sheep or "the Lamb of God" was used to show humility towards God? The Black Death had just entered Europe a few years before starting in 1348. Types issued before this featured the King seated on his throne and I wonder if this Lamb of God design is a deliberate attempt at penance? It was not issued before or since in France although I recall a few being used on some Swiss or other low mintage gold coins.

On another bright note, I just realized that I've a Plague Dollar. Yes this means I'm protected against the coronavirus as long as I carry it in my pocket.

 

You are probably correct. Seems all of the Agnel/ Mouton d'ors (France/ Brabant/ Flanders/ Hainault where struck just after the plague started in Europe.

 

AV 4 Dukaten 1848-A Vienna Mint MS-66
Ferdinand V
Austro-Hungarian Empire
Upon the death of Franz II Holy Roman Emperor/ Ferdinand became the new Emperor. Born in 1793, he had suffered from mental problems, so his Father (Franz II) made provisions that upon his passing, Archduke Louis would be a sort of Regent. In 1848, Revolutions spread thru much of Central Europe, thus Ferdinand abdicated in favor of his nephew FranzJosef I.

 

1819 France, Medal:
Henri de la Tour d'Auvergne, here is a story about him on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_La_Tour_d'Auvergne,_Viscount_of_Turenne
From the Galerie metallique des grandes Hommes Francais

 

Thanks. I think I got a good deal on it, forget how much I paid. As often happens, I just hope it isn't a fake. To me, it just looks too good to be a fake. I can read and understand all the French words, and that helps.

 

That looks genuine to me. Nice medal, nice series. They all have that bland reverse, but the portraits are great and they almost all have a nice, deep relief.

 

1696 Crown! I’ve always wanted to buy a decent William piece and managed to get this one today for 180£ on eBay!Don’t know if it’s a great deal , but I like it! !Hope it’s a VF grade though!
PS. Just noticed that I confused the topic with the world crowns one!

 

Fine looking crown! It looks very historical to me, therefore it can fit in this thread. Here is a brief blurb about King Billy from Wikipedia:
"William III (Dutch: Willem; 4 November 1650 – 8 March 1702),[2] also widely known as William of Orange, was sovereign Prince of Orange from birth, Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Guelders and Overijssel in the Dutch Republic from the 1670s and King of England, Ireland and Scotland from 1689 until his death. Popular histories usually refer to his joint reign with his wife, Queen Mary II, as that of William and Mary. As King of Scotland, he is known as William II.[3] He is sometimes informally known as "King Billy" in Northern Ireland and Scotland,[4] where his victory at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is still commemorated by Unionists and Ulster loyalists."

 

"NANRYO GIN
The Nanryo Gin was the Japanese government’s second attempt at a rectangular silver coin, and it was much more successful. These ran from 1772 through 1837 and saw three slightly different types. Even the name was an attempt to increase public confidence; “Nanryo Gin” means “High-Quality Silver”. With silver content ranging from 97.8% to 98.9% over the years, they lived up to their name.

The obverse features two dense columns of Japanese writing that translate as “Take Nanryo eight pieces / to exchange for Koban one Ryo.” The hope was that writing the official value on the coin would encourage it to circulate at face value, unlike the Meiwa Go Momme Gin."

From Coin Week IQ by Lianna Spurrier May 31, 2019

Read more about the history of the bar money of Japan in the article below:
https://coinweek.com/world-coins/coinweek-iq-japanese-bar-money/

 

AV Rosenoble ND Utrecht Mint
United Dutch Provinces/ Utrecht
Struck 1599/1600
Originally this region was under Burgundian Rule. However, after Charles the Bold got wiped out in his Wars with the Swiss, the Low Countries came under Habsburg Rule. In 1568 Willem I of Orange led a revolt vs now the Spanish Army of Flanders. In 1584 he was assassinated. War dragged on for 80 years between the Spanish and Dutch rebels. In 1648, the Treaty of Westphalia ended the Thirty Years War, and also the gave the Dutch Independence from Spain.
The Rosenobles where a Dutch imitation of English AV Ryals struck under Edward IV in the "Wars of the Roses" period.