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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ValpoBeginner, post: 3018428, member: 77066&quot;]I think that they were all double struck in the proof manor of striking, but I pose a numismatic definition question:</p><p><br /></p><p>What makes a coin a proof? </p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">Is it just the strike? (two up to five times, depending on the metal)</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Or is it</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">The strike &amp; the intent of the striking authority. In other words, is it intended on being marketed and sold as a proof, and under what auspices (an act of congress) ? </p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p><p>This question of were they all proofs, is one of semantics. If any authority at the mint strikes a coin doubly as a mistake in this day and age, it usually gets a designation of being PROOF LIKE.&nbsp; These are very easily distinguished by the presence of supporting evidence, mainly the mint mark corresponding to its purpose. Other such evidence can be in support of its purpose either if monetary or its entrance into the collectors market by the presence of original mint packaging, or by identifying certain characteristics like features in the rims (Lincoln matte proofs), die markers specific to those used to strike proof coins, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>But in the case of these extremely rare&nbsp; 1913 coins, supposedly clandestinely made by mint employees operating outside the scope of their duties stated within their job descriptions, who can say that they are proofs,&nbsp; and furthermore who can say, let alone even if they are valid U.S coinage, since they were produced outside the law. </p><p><br /></p><p>Any other thoughts?&nbsp; Am I giving this issue it&#039;s full day in court?</p><p><br /></p><p>I really never gave it much thought until tonight, after reading this post.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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