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<p>[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 4498657, member: 110226"]Thank you all for your posts and wonderful coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>This pivotal war in the ancient world had its roots that ring true even to today, and its consequences, as with innumerable conflicts, felt throughout history.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's what Edith Hamilton, author of "The Greek Way" (highly recommended), had to say about the war's effect on Athens and Sparta's brief rule as the victor:</p><p><br /></p><p> <i>"... Sparta could not rule other nations. Athens had taxed them heavily, but except for that she had not interfered with them. Sparta's methods are explained by the remark of an Athenian who admired her, to the effect that the will of any Spartan citizen was absolute law in the subject states. She was never able to understand any way but her own, and the other Greeks did not take kindly to that. They were not docile and they did not like obedience. She could not hold them long. The Spartan Empire lasted only a few years. Toward the end of the war she had made and alliance with her old arch-enemy, Persia, which helped her greatly in reducing Athens. But soon afterwards the two allies quarreled. Sparta was defeated and Persia took away the sea empire she had taken away from Athens.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>That was the result of twenty-seven years of war. It seems at first sight a triumph of futility, but it was worse than that. Very many Athenians were killed during those years </i>[in both fighting and plague]. <i>Fortunately for us, some who were of an age to fight - Socrates, Plato, Thucydides himself, and others equally familiar, - did not die on battlefields; but it cannot be doubted that among all who did, there were those who would have led the world up to new heights. The flame that burned so brightly in fifth-century Athens would have given more and still more light to the world if these dead had not died, and died truly in vain."</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>And this from Thucydides:</p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>"The cause of all these evils was the desire for power which greed and ambition inspire." - </i>Thucydides, III, 83</p><p><br /></p><p>I have two more coins from the period, both from Cilicia.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Soloi</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>Soloi was a vassal state to and satrapy of the Achaemenid Empire after the reign of Cyrus the Great.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cilicia, Soloi AR Stater. 425-400 BC. Amazon, nude to the waist and seen from behind, kneeling to left and stringing her bow, wearing bonnet and with her gorytos at her hip; to right, facing head of satyr / ΣΟΛΕΩΝ, large bunch of grapes; below right, fly; all within incuse square with linear border of dots. BMC 3; SNG France 128; SNG Levante 40; SNG von Aulock 5858. 10.61g, 20mm, 6h.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1115655[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Kelenderis</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>Kelenderis was a member of the Delian League as part of the Cilicia Fiscal District.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cilicia, Kelenderis AR Stater. Circa 430-420 BC. Nude youth, holding whip, dismounting from horse rearing left; A below horse's belly / Goat kneeling left, head right; KEΛ and branch with ivy leaf and berries above. Casabonne Type 2; Celenderis -; SNG France 46; SNG Levante -; Roma e65, 438. 10.83g, 19mm, 3h.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin was recently purchased at auction. It is still in the pipeline for delivery.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1115656[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 4498657, member: 110226"]Thank you all for your posts and wonderful coins. This pivotal war in the ancient world had its roots that ring true even to today, and its consequences, as with innumerable conflicts, felt throughout history. Here's what Edith Hamilton, author of "The Greek Way" (highly recommended), had to say about the war's effect on Athens and Sparta's brief rule as the victor: [I]"... Sparta could not rule other nations. Athens had taxed them heavily, but except for that she had not interfered with them. Sparta's methods are explained by the remark of an Athenian who admired her, to the effect that the will of any Spartan citizen was absolute law in the subject states. She was never able to understand any way but her own, and the other Greeks did not take kindly to that. They were not docile and they did not like obedience. She could not hold them long. The Spartan Empire lasted only a few years. Toward the end of the war she had made and alliance with her old arch-enemy, Persia, which helped her greatly in reducing Athens. But soon afterwards the two allies quarreled. Sparta was defeated and Persia took away the sea empire she had taken away from Athens. That was the result of twenty-seven years of war. It seems at first sight a triumph of futility, but it was worse than that. Very many Athenians were killed during those years [/I][in both fighting and plague]. [I]Fortunately for us, some who were of an age to fight - Socrates, Plato, Thucydides himself, and others equally familiar, - did not die on battlefields; but it cannot be doubted that among all who did, there were those who would have led the world up to new heights. The flame that burned so brightly in fifth-century Athens would have given more and still more light to the world if these dead had not died, and died truly in vain." [/I] And this from Thucydides: [I] "The cause of all these evils was the desire for power which greed and ambition inspire." - [/I]Thucydides, III, 83 I have two more coins from the period, both from Cilicia. [I]Soloi [/I] Soloi was a vassal state to and satrapy of the Achaemenid Empire after the reign of Cyrus the Great. Cilicia, Soloi AR Stater. 425-400 BC. Amazon, nude to the waist and seen from behind, kneeling to left and stringing her bow, wearing bonnet and with her gorytos at her hip; to right, facing head of satyr / ΣΟΛΕΩΝ, large bunch of grapes; below right, fly; all within incuse square with linear border of dots. BMC 3; SNG France 128; SNG Levante 40; SNG von Aulock 5858. 10.61g, 20mm, 6h. [ATTACH=full]1115655[/ATTACH] [I]Kelenderis [/I] Kelenderis was a member of the Delian League as part of the Cilicia Fiscal District. Cilicia, Kelenderis AR Stater. Circa 430-420 BC. Nude youth, holding whip, dismounting from horse rearing left; A below horse's belly / Goat kneeling left, head right; KEΛ and branch with ivy leaf and berries above. Casabonne Type 2; Celenderis -; SNG France 46; SNG Levante -; Roma e65, 438. 10.83g, 19mm, 3h. This coin was recently purchased at auction. It is still in the pipeline for delivery. [ATTACH=full]1115656[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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