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<p>[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2873170, member: 88736"]In the beginning, starting post was about learning the "numerals on the coins", on ancient coins as well as on modern coins. We have learnt enough, however, not finished, people may still post some coins with/out numerals as they've also done from time to time also in pages in between 10-20th pages. </p><p><br /></p><p>Do you see thread has become different than the beginning? No, there is no disconnection between the beginning and the rest of thread. We including myself are learning here the coin and what makes it a money is strictly related to the "numerals". Note that, here in this thread, "money" is not the money in "price", it is the money "itself" and a coin is money itself only when it has numeral on it. Right? A coin without numerals can still be considered as "money", but, in that case, it is "money in the price" rather than "money itself." Here, in this thread, "money in the price" which is economy related is not being talked. Coins with numeral have this small, but, significant difference from coins with no-numeral. Coin with numeral tells it is "money itself" while coin without numeral tells it is "money in price". And, how can you have a "number" in your pocket? You can have a number in your pocket only if it is a coin with a numeral. And, without having basic counting number which is "one", having "a hundred from one" is an imaginary thing. That is, in figures, without one piece $0.01, i.e. without "one cent", $1.00 is an imaginary hundred pieces. So, $0.01 or "one cent", which is a coin with a numeral "1" or in words "one" is a "reference" coin if I use engineering/physics language or "constant" coin if I use mathematics language. All these also are about being "careful" about the "integrity" which takes us also to the "work safety". So, all those ramblings you said in this thread that look chaotic have actually an order in itself, that can also be called as "deterministic chaos" in chaos language.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway. I guess, this too is clear now. That said, lets stay at this "$1.00" and "$0.01". When you stop a walking person on the roadside and show this figure $1.00 (without showing $0.01) what's his immediate reaction/response? And then, when you show the figure $0.01 what's his response? His two responses won't be same. When $1.00 is shown he'll talk about the "money" and when $0.01 is shown he'll talk about the "coin". I've done some experiments/survey on this and these are their reactions/responses. So, it seems that there is a "discontinuity" in their views/perceives about this that causes them to find themselves in a challenge.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ps: I am aware of that I have not many words in my English vocabulary in my mind, so, I may not be using "perfect" words to explain things. But, this isn't the only problem, it is not easy to tell it also in the language I use here everyday. There is another problem in explaining these, there is no available terminology about such things. So, I am trying to use analogies, etc to known words/figures/etc to explain all these "new" things which are actually not new. All these can be considered like searching/discovering a thing lost in the chaos which occupied their views of people about the money/coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2873170, member: 88736"]In the beginning, starting post was about learning the "numerals on the coins", on ancient coins as well as on modern coins. We have learnt enough, however, not finished, people may still post some coins with/out numerals as they've also done from time to time also in pages in between 10-20th pages. Do you see thread has become different than the beginning? No, there is no disconnection between the beginning and the rest of thread. We including myself are learning here the coin and what makes it a money is strictly related to the "numerals". Note that, here in this thread, "money" is not the money in "price", it is the money "itself" and a coin is money itself only when it has numeral on it. Right? A coin without numerals can still be considered as "money", but, in that case, it is "money in the price" rather than "money itself." Here, in this thread, "money in the price" which is economy related is not being talked. Coins with numeral have this small, but, significant difference from coins with no-numeral. Coin with numeral tells it is "money itself" while coin without numeral tells it is "money in price". And, how can you have a "number" in your pocket? You can have a number in your pocket only if it is a coin with a numeral. And, without having basic counting number which is "one", having "a hundred from one" is an imaginary thing. That is, in figures, without one piece $0.01, i.e. without "one cent", $1.00 is an imaginary hundred pieces. So, $0.01 or "one cent", which is a coin with a numeral "1" or in words "one" is a "reference" coin if I use engineering/physics language or "constant" coin if I use mathematics language. All these also are about being "careful" about the "integrity" which takes us also to the "work safety". So, all those ramblings you said in this thread that look chaotic have actually an order in itself, that can also be called as "deterministic chaos" in chaos language. Anyway. I guess, this too is clear now. That said, lets stay at this "$1.00" and "$0.01". When you stop a walking person on the roadside and show this figure $1.00 (without showing $0.01) what's his immediate reaction/response? And then, when you show the figure $0.01 what's his response? His two responses won't be same. When $1.00 is shown he'll talk about the "money" and when $0.01 is shown he'll talk about the "coin". I've done some experiments/survey on this and these are their reactions/responses. So, it seems that there is a "discontinuity" in their views/perceives about this that causes them to find themselves in a challenge. Ps: I am aware of that I have not many words in my English vocabulary in my mind, so, I may not be using "perfect" words to explain things. But, this isn't the only problem, it is not easy to tell it also in the language I use here everyday. There is another problem in explaining these, there is no available terminology about such things. So, I am trying to use analogies, etc to known words/figures/etc to explain all these "new" things which are actually not new. All these can be considered like searching/discovering a thing lost in the chaos which occupied their views of people about the money/coin.[/QUOTE]
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