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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ErolGarip, post: 2872533, member: 88736&quot;]I don&#039;t know old coins, but, here is some side info. That &quot;signature/stamp&quot; on the Observe face is, as you probably know, Ottoman&#039;s empire stamp/signature that we call it &quot;Tugra&quot; in Turkish. By the way, &quot;Head or Tail&quot; in Turkish is &quot;Yazi or Tura&quot; which means &quot;Writing or Stamp/Signature&quot;. But, &quot;Tugra or Tura&quot; in old Turkic originally means &quot;Tag&quot;, which was stamped on animals, usually, on horses, my guess. So, that Ottoman Tugra/Stamp probably comes from an old Turkic &quot;Horse Tag&quot;, or &quot;Dog Tag&quot;. </p><p><br /></p><p>While you started it, let me show an older Turkic coin. </p><p>Here is a GokTurks (Sky/Blue/Celestial Turks) coin:&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]686815[/ATTACH] </p><p>576-600 AD. </p><p><br /></p><p>Alphabet on the coin is Orkhon (old Turkic runic) alphabet which I don&#039;t know to read. Scholars who read the insrciption on it, say what is written on it is &quot;Emre Besen Ille Serib&quot; in old Turkic which I can read and translate to today Turkish as &quot;Emredildi, Basildi, Ile Serildi/Yayildi&quot; which I can translate into English as &quot;Ordered, Minted and Distributed/Circulated in the Country.&quot; By the way, notice Crescent&amp;Star on the coin which are widely known (falsely) as Islamic symbols. But, as seen in this coin which is a pre-Islamic Turkic coin, Crescent&amp;Star existed before Islam, so, they are not Islamic symbol, but, Turkic symbol. Anyway, I am not good in reading old alphabets, but, it seems that there is no numerals on this coin either. Maybe, those three round notches on the coin was numeral values?, who knows.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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