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<p>[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2854298, member: 88736"]Your this post is about "the function of money" which is commerce/trade/economy/exchange/etc.</p><p>That's why you and everybody (me too, till some years ago) have been neglecting small moneys/coins and this is obvious especially in case of 1cent coin which has not been seen significant by anyone at all, not only in our time/era, but also, for more than twenty centuries... Of course, it is normal if you are focused/oriented on the target that is to buy/sell/trade/commerce/economy/etc, then, you too can say "erol is abnormal because he is talking about how one cent has a significant value" because it has not significant value in commerce/trade/economy/etc. </p><p><br /></p><p>In this thread, I've not touched (or, tangentially touched only) on the commerce/economy aspects of the money. Such talks related to money&economy can be found on zillions of websites/forums/threads/posts on the net. Difference of this thread here from all others is in questioning the "money itself" rather than its function, i.e. commerce/trade/economy/etc. If the money is a tool being used in these areas, that tool must be learnt first before its function which is a blurry term. </p><p><br /></p><p>I can simplify these (money&economy) with this abstract formula: </p><p><br /></p><p>PRICE (unit is again "money") = FACTORS (economy/etc related, can also be called "function of money") x MONEY (itself.) </p><p><br /></p><p>When the money is mentioned to people they immediately think about the Price rather than the Money itself as expected, as their life is more directly related to the Price rather than the Money itself. Since the unit of "Price" too is the money they see the money as the price only. And, to make the Price lower/higher (depending on when buying/selling), they play with the "Factors" or , they work on the "Factors". They never think, they've never thought about the "Money itself" on the right side of that equation above. But, the money itself is just a tool and that tool must be learnt first before it is used anywhere for anything. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is what is being done here in this thread, learning the tool, the money itself, first... </p><p>Using the money tool without knowing it well enough can be resembled to using the "control pen" (voltage tester) in an electrical work without knowing significance of the electric control pen. (yes, I'm trying to give examples/analogies more related to the work safety, because, before education, there is work safety issue first that's more about the tool itself and its integrity like the money itself and its integrity.) </p><p><br /></p><p>There are also many things in the commerce/trade/etc to be questioned. For example, how much is the price of a horse cart? Lets say $1000. I don't use 1cent in the trade anyway, but, I don't pay even a 5cent for a horse cart. Those people who pay $1000 for it are unaware of what they are doing. They are not only giving damages to their own healths, but also, to the healths of others around the horse carts and they are unaware of these... So, that way or many other such ways of use of the money are not worth of any positive value, moreover, has negative values. Here, I'm not blaming/accusing horse carters like animallovers do. Those horse carters are doing it because not only they themselves are not aware of such things, but also, professors/presidents/etc are not aware of, either. Of course, such things too will be questioned, later, but, first, we need to learn the tool itself, i.e. the money itself, first. And, the basic, the simplest form of the money itself is the coin and here we are for this in this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2854298, member: 88736"]Your this post is about "the function of money" which is commerce/trade/economy/exchange/etc. That's why you and everybody (me too, till some years ago) have been neglecting small moneys/coins and this is obvious especially in case of 1cent coin which has not been seen significant by anyone at all, not only in our time/era, but also, for more than twenty centuries... Of course, it is normal if you are focused/oriented on the target that is to buy/sell/trade/commerce/economy/etc, then, you too can say "erol is abnormal because he is talking about how one cent has a significant value" because it has not significant value in commerce/trade/economy/etc. In this thread, I've not touched (or, tangentially touched only) on the commerce/economy aspects of the money. Such talks related to money&economy can be found on zillions of websites/forums/threads/posts on the net. Difference of this thread here from all others is in questioning the "money itself" rather than its function, i.e. commerce/trade/economy/etc. If the money is a tool being used in these areas, that tool must be learnt first before its function which is a blurry term. I can simplify these (money&economy) with this abstract formula: PRICE (unit is again "money") = FACTORS (economy/etc related, can also be called "function of money") x MONEY (itself.) When the money is mentioned to people they immediately think about the Price rather than the Money itself as expected, as their life is more directly related to the Price rather than the Money itself. Since the unit of "Price" too is the money they see the money as the price only. And, to make the Price lower/higher (depending on when buying/selling), they play with the "Factors" or , they work on the "Factors". They never think, they've never thought about the "Money itself" on the right side of that equation above. But, the money itself is just a tool and that tool must be learnt first before it is used anywhere for anything. This is what is being done here in this thread, learning the tool, the money itself, first... Using the money tool without knowing it well enough can be resembled to using the "control pen" (voltage tester) in an electrical work without knowing significance of the electric control pen. (yes, I'm trying to give examples/analogies more related to the work safety, because, before education, there is work safety issue first that's more about the tool itself and its integrity like the money itself and its integrity.) There are also many things in the commerce/trade/etc to be questioned. For example, how much is the price of a horse cart? Lets say $1000. I don't use 1cent in the trade anyway, but, I don't pay even a 5cent for a horse cart. Those people who pay $1000 for it are unaware of what they are doing. They are not only giving damages to their own healths, but also, to the healths of others around the horse carts and they are unaware of these... So, that way or many other such ways of use of the money are not worth of any positive value, moreover, has negative values. Here, I'm not blaming/accusing horse carters like animallovers do. Those horse carters are doing it because not only they themselves are not aware of such things, but also, professors/presidents/etc are not aware of, either. Of course, such things too will be questioned, later, but, first, we need to learn the tool itself, i.e. the money itself, first. And, the basic, the simplest form of the money itself is the coin and here we are for this in this thread.[/QUOTE]
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