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<p>[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2826148, member: 88736"]"Old" engineer, what are you waiting? </p><p><br /></p><p>Probably, your mind is on "economy", meaning, more money, like your "boss" doing. Or, your mind is on "mathematics" of money like your math prof at university doing. </p><p><br /></p><p>You are an engineer, a practical person, and there is a person/people over there whose work safety is first... For the moment, just give one 1coin to each of them and leave it to time... No need to waste time now to think about "boss" and "mathematican"... His mind of your boss is already on "more money" while his mind of mathematican is already on "more numbers" about money... One (mathematican) is already doing some unnecessary extra things (called over-engineering) while one (boss) is doing somethings missing (called under-engineering.) If you wait for them to do somethings good, you wait for long time. </p><p><br /></p><p>What's engineering? Whatever is "sufficient" is engineering. Here, "sufficiency" is "integrity" in practicality. What is practical reality of money? From engineering mathematics point of view, it is 1coin, a coin with value 1, undividable value of money. If it is divided, that dividing operation is "irreversable" operation that makes 1coin somethings else which cannot be called money anymore. Mathematican may keep playing with numbers for the moment, for example, he can try to divide $100 by 3 to share $100 by 3 people "equally". Mathematically, maybe, it can be done, in the future or in his dream, but, it can not be done monetarily, as money itself is already an "approximation" that is a thing already being done a lot in engineering. What is last piece, order of approximation in money? It's 1coin (cent, or whatever name, doesn't matter) which we can also call practical "unit value" of money. Missing piece of your boss, which cause him lose "integrity" is that piece, 1coin. Without integrity, with a missing part at an assembly, you know, that assembly won't work properly. In money case, assembly is just a little different than you are used to in the industry. For example, a house with doors, windows, kitchen, etc. is an assembly, mounted to each others. But, its key of house door too is a part of house assembly, but, not mounted to the house, not kept in the lock of door, the key is always kept in the pocket. Another analogy. Electricity "control pen" (voltage tester) is never mounted to an electrical circuit board, even if it is used when working on the board, "control pen" is put back it into the pocket after the work and a professional electrican always keep one "control pen" in his pocket. These (key of house and control pen) are just examples related to "integrity" that can also be called "seperatable integrity" and 1coin in "money assembly" is in the same category. No need to tell all these to all workers there at the moment at onse, leave it to time, they will learn it themselves in time once they have 1coin in their pockets, that will also make them more careful while they are doing works. Yes, there is also a little psychological side/help of this in becoming more careful at work, but, it is not in a bla-bla world, it "1coin" is a concrete item. And, even if its mathematical theory maybe deep like at a professor level, its basic math is also as simple as at an elementry school kid level, like counting numbers starting with 1. Here, as we people at work, our math level related to work safety is "sufficient", it is engineering level of its mathematics of money (its approximation order level is 1cent) is sufficient for our industrial works and its "constancy" mathematically tells us that at least one 1coin has to be kept in pockets, starting especially with workers who are doing more risky works such as electricity, welding, etc... (By the way, equality between people about money holds only and only with 1coin, by having 1coin in all pockets, as it is a constant value, equality cannot be hold with any other amount of money.) Good evening.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2826148, member: 88736"]"Old" engineer, what are you waiting? Probably, your mind is on "economy", meaning, more money, like your "boss" doing. Or, your mind is on "mathematics" of money like your math prof at university doing. You are an engineer, a practical person, and there is a person/people over there whose work safety is first... For the moment, just give one 1coin to each of them and leave it to time... No need to waste time now to think about "boss" and "mathematican"... His mind of your boss is already on "more money" while his mind of mathematican is already on "more numbers" about money... One (mathematican) is already doing some unnecessary extra things (called over-engineering) while one (boss) is doing somethings missing (called under-engineering.) If you wait for them to do somethings good, you wait for long time. What's engineering? Whatever is "sufficient" is engineering. Here, "sufficiency" is "integrity" in practicality. What is practical reality of money? From engineering mathematics point of view, it is 1coin, a coin with value 1, undividable value of money. If it is divided, that dividing operation is "irreversable" operation that makes 1coin somethings else which cannot be called money anymore. Mathematican may keep playing with numbers for the moment, for example, he can try to divide $100 by 3 to share $100 by 3 people "equally". Mathematically, maybe, it can be done, in the future or in his dream, but, it can not be done monetarily, as money itself is already an "approximation" that is a thing already being done a lot in engineering. What is last piece, order of approximation in money? It's 1coin (cent, or whatever name, doesn't matter) which we can also call practical "unit value" of money. Missing piece of your boss, which cause him lose "integrity" is that piece, 1coin. Without integrity, with a missing part at an assembly, you know, that assembly won't work properly. In money case, assembly is just a little different than you are used to in the industry. For example, a house with doors, windows, kitchen, etc. is an assembly, mounted to each others. But, its key of house door too is a part of house assembly, but, not mounted to the house, not kept in the lock of door, the key is always kept in the pocket. Another analogy. Electricity "control pen" (voltage tester) is never mounted to an electrical circuit board, even if it is used when working on the board, "control pen" is put back it into the pocket after the work and a professional electrican always keep one "control pen" in his pocket. These (key of house and control pen) are just examples related to "integrity" that can also be called "seperatable integrity" and 1coin in "money assembly" is in the same category. No need to tell all these to all workers there at the moment at onse, leave it to time, they will learn it themselves in time once they have 1coin in their pockets, that will also make them more careful while they are doing works. Yes, there is also a little psychological side/help of this in becoming more careful at work, but, it is not in a bla-bla world, it "1coin" is a concrete item. And, even if its mathematical theory maybe deep like at a professor level, its basic math is also as simple as at an elementry school kid level, like counting numbers starting with 1. Here, as we people at work, our math level related to work safety is "sufficient", it is engineering level of its mathematics of money (its approximation order level is 1cent) is sufficient for our industrial works and its "constancy" mathematically tells us that at least one 1coin has to be kept in pockets, starting especially with workers who are doing more risky works such as electricity, welding, etc... (By the way, equality between people about money holds only and only with 1coin, by having 1coin in all pockets, as it is a constant value, equality cannot be hold with any other amount of money.) Good evening.[/QUOTE]
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